News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville
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That looks great. I can't wait. 
Love the trailer! I can't wait for the new season to start.
I hate employing the word "epic" as it's far too overused by the kids these days, but it really does apply in this case. Cinematography, visual effects and lightning look an order of magnitude better too.
Boom, bitch! So hyped up for this. It's the show I've been looking forward to the most. Fall can't come soon enough for this 
Eh, the song ruined it. Plus, I believe I see some brief scenes from season one scattered in there.
And it looks like one brief shot of Alara has her not played by the same person. Where are the new characters?
And it looks like one brief shot of Alara has her not played by the same person. Where are the new characters?
Based on this post's level of snark, I am guessing you haven't actually watched the show.How many Star Trek scripts can MacFarlane rip off while also shoving lukewarm humor into? Will Disney want to keep paying for MacFarlane's stupid vanity project when FOX is out of the picture? Find out, in this season of The Orville
I watched several episodes of it. I wish I could take my time back. Its just Family Guy humor toned down to about PG levels and stuck in a lukewarm TNG ripoff. Bonus points for trying to be "relevant" and being horrible at it, which isn't a surprise because this is a Macfarlane show. Its also cheap looking (I just love it when a show set on a spaceship films as much outside as possible so they don't have to build sets, it makes it look really futuristic
), and for some reason only ripped off the worst Trek episodes (like dealing with backward civilizations, finding places almost exactly like Earth but set in the real world present to save money, cringey episodes about sensitive topics that will be offensively outdated quickly, etc), or the most tired of Sci Fi tropes they could google (Space zoo with people is very played out).To be a bit more specific, between the alien with the rape-y pheromones and the "very special episode" about Macfarlane trying to talk about gender, I'd rather go watch stuff like The Naked Now or The Outcast, which are both fucking awful TNG episodes but at least I can say they had decent actors mixed up in all the shit. That's one more positive then I could say about Orville's episodes. The Orville is what happens when all the worst bits of 90s Trek are filtered through Seth Macfarlane's brain. So unfunny, badly done, episodes that are generally broken from the very premise and overall a complete waste of time. I'm curious to see if Disney will keep funding Macfarlane's crappy vanity project once the FOX deal goes through.
Whew. I feel better now about liking The Orville.
I know exactly what you mean.
Filming on location actually costs the show more money than building sets does.(I just love it when a show set on a spaceship films as much outside as possible so they don't have to build sets, it makes it look really futuristic
Yeah, anyone who actually knows anything at all about these productions knows that so-called "bottle shows," where the production stays at the studio and if possible on existing sets, are the least costly. If it weren't for the audience expectation of seeing ships that travel about actually having their people, you know, go outside someplace interesting every now and again for plausibility's sake a lot of productions wouldn't.
I always love when these kinds of shows go outdoors. It gives the feeling of it being a "real" universe.
While I am liking Babylon 5, the lack of outdoor shooting begins to get tedious after a while.
So they spent more money to make shitty episodes? Well, I'm not surprised. Then again, I guess I'm thinking about wrong. The Orville is not a sci fi show, its a "comedy" that happens to sometimes take place on a ship. So obviously going off ship as much as possible would be stupid for a show where traveling through space, exploring, etc, is the premise, but that's not what Orville is. Orville is Macfarlane getting FOX to pay for him to film his Star Trek fanfic ideas, and he obviously latched on to the "Enterprise crew explores California for 45 minutes and not much else happens" episodes, when he's not just ripping off outright awful episodes. So, in Star Trek having to see them leave the cool sci fi elements behind to go on a hike somewhere in California generally leads to mediocre episodes, Orville is about the "comedy", and that's going to be shit no matter where it is.
I guess I just don't have the right mindset with The Orville. I need to remember that its not a bad sci fi show, its a terrible comedy with some sci fi elements and should be treated as such. In that context, filming on location all the time isn't a point for or against the show. I got annoyed by that because in Star Trek the "exploring the studio backlot/nearby open field/desert" episodes tend to piss me off (even in TOS, where it feels like that's 60% of the episodes), but its not like it matters for Orville. On the cheap sets or on location, its all just the worst TNG episodes filtered through Macfarlane's head then crapped out for people to watch.
It sucks, but not enough to really bother me by itself except for the whole "FOX cancelled fucking Firefly but this shit keeps getting made" thing, and the few people who pretend this is anything like a real Sci Fi show and act like its actually better then anything. Outside of that, its just another bad comedy, like literally every comedy that airs on FOX. A vanity project that will disappear the second its cancelled, so outside of laughing at how it steals from the worst Trek episodes it could I should just ignore it.
Actually it's a Dramedy with a focus on Adventure. Has the ability to be serious or silly and funny. A comedy is when the shows entire focus is almost just on the humor. Everything is about setting up the next punchline. To be honest even most comedies these days don't follow that formula. Even comedies want to be more. Some don't even bother with the comedy part of their comedy show. "MASH" was famous for this!
Jason
You're a drop of sunshine.
Let's not run so quickly away from the fact that you didn't know a basic thing about TV production while you were holding forth on the subject.
So, you want a show that's more about exploring but never actually explores anything and just stays aboard ship the whole time? Makes total sense.
I love how you just reversed your entire argument 180 degrees when it was shown you have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. It's almost like you just pick arbitrary reasons to be relentlessly negative about things you've prematurely decided to hate based on ignorance of the subject matter.
You don't have the right mindset for 95% of television and movies.
Ah yes, Firefly, a show that never explored the studio backlot, open field, or desert, which you've suddenly decided is a bad thing now.
Fox is made up of an entirely different group of executives now from the Firefly days and has been somewhat more forgiving about cancelling shows, so continuing to blame them indefinitely for that is stupid.