Yeah, it means the show won't age well. 20 years from now few people would likely get the reality TV gag or appreciate the Seinfeld bit.
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Hell, "Seinfeld" isn't a thing with newer generations. It's something they only encounter is memes, but even then don't care enough to watch an episode.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;-)
Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;-)
Both are pop culture references. Shakespeare just has a longer pedigree.
The only time I was bothered by the humor was Gordon's antics on the Krill ship last week. Other than that it's been good, most of it's been funny, and I haven't had any problems with where it's been occurring in the episodes.
Futurama, M*A*S*H* and Scrubs are pretty much the only comedies that ever really hit me emotionally. I'm a dog person, so the end of Jurassic Bark really gets to me.
I'm enjoying the show but after a promising start, they've drifted back to time honoured sex ratios with episodes 4 and 6 both featuring male dominated species where the only women featured were a mom and a junior school teacher. When the recurring women, who feature prominently thankfully, talk to each other, they seem to be talking about boys rather a lot. It's doubtful that their casting director got fired half way through so I'll have to pin my hopes on Discovery now!
Yeah, you ought to pay more careful attention.
Lol, I don't only watch sci fi to see feminist idealism realised but the two should really go hand in hand. Trek has never managed it and I'm still watching :-P. Lazy casting with default to male seems to be the problem.
Discovery has bucked the trend so far, with women only landing parties and lots of female officers and crew manning stations in the background. It's almost like someone gave it some thought for once.
The larger point being that apparently some things are allowed to continue, while other cultural references are not allowed. I'm trying to figure out were the line is, since Shakespeare is very old, and still gets referenced in a 23rd or 24th century. If age is the determination of relevance in a science fiction show, then Shakespeare should be eliminated.
But, that's my point. Humor is subjective. Newsradio was never funny to me, and neither was Seinfeld, for the longest time, while parents absolutely love it and still watch it.
That's it-its all subjective, and humor is the most prone to that subjectivity. So, you're examples didn't work for me
I'm interested in being entertained in the here and now. In twenty years, I'll likely be an old man, shitting my Depends.
And that would be?
Honestly, I think that in general the idea that people may remain familiar with those things that exist as more-or-less permanent records in more-or-less their original forms - stuff beginning early in the 20th century, with film and sound recording - and that can be consumed passively is easier to swallow than that everything we regard as "classic" now but that depend upon literacy for their currency will remain well-known.
I guarantee you that while many folks know a little about Shakespeare most have never read his work nor seen a production of any of it.
A Seth McFlarane show is really not a good place to go looking for feminism.
I saw this article. The writer forgot The Orville. It would have made place 1. Right now there is a 73 % gap between critics (19 %) and the audience (92 %) on Rotten Tomatoes.
It's not that any particular cultural reference isn't allowed, so much that constant cultural references to the same period in history break immersion.
A couple 20th century cultural references, sure, fine. Constant 20th century references in every scene? Really really stretching it.
A couple 20th century cultural references, sure, fine. Constant 20th century references in every scene? Really really stretching it.
I prefer to be immersed in the fictional world, and all the 20th century talk throws me out of that.
That explains all the bitching on that show. *rimshot*