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News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

I could see that one a bit more than Brooklyn 99. I don't know for sure, since I'm just going by what McFarlane said in the interview.
The Trekmovie article compared it to M*A*S*H*, which I'd say was pretty close in tone to Scrubs.
That's a tough sell for me... Scrubs was funny, even slapsticky funny at times, but still had a good message.. M*A*S*H* was really funny for about 5 seasons and then when Alan Alda took over a lot of the creative, the comedy aspect took a huge back seat and it became very somber and all about messaging (mostly but not all anti-war)... Really, any true comedy became incidental and almost felt forced at times.
 
From the couple online reviews that were not complimentary, it looks to me like they were maybe expecting a full-on Galaxy Quest or something more irreverent.

I understand some of it looks to be very derivative, but that happens in a lot of places with TV, movies, music.

I'll give it a go, as well. There is room in my home for Orville and Discovery!
 
I'll still give it a shot to, but after a couple things mentioned in the reviews, I had misgivings about the kind of commentary Seth may try to make with the series.
 
Reviews don't move me. I'm looking forward to the show's premiere this weekend, but not getting too attached to it. ;)
 
I was already, "I doubt I'll like it but I'll give it an honest shot" so the reviews haven't changed anything for me.
Me neither. I've always been of the opinion that, if the critics are so knowledgeable on all these things, why haven't they done anything themselves that would clearly be so amazingly fantastic as to be beyond critical reproach? Short answer is they can't, and likely never will, which really makes their "learned" opinions as patently worthless as mine! :)
 
That's a tough sell for me... Scrubs was funny, even slapsticky funny at times, but still had a good message.. M*A*S*H* was really funny for about 5 seasons and then when Alan Alda took over a lot of the creative, the comedy aspect took a huge back seat and it became very somber and all about messaging (mostly but not all anti-war)... Really, any true comedy became incidental and almost felt forced at times.
Sorry, I cannot disagree more. Season 5 was fantastic, to be sure, but Season 8 probably has my top episodes for comedy in it, as well as 9. There are hit and miss ones and more serious ones increased, but the chemistry between Morgan, Alda, Stiers, Farrell and the rest was solid all the way through, with some incredibly clever set ups and pay offs.

As for Orville, since it was presented as far more of a comedy and has now shifted gears in to more "anti-dystopian sci-fi" I have feeling that expectations impacted the reviews.

I care little about reviews and will watch it as least once. Why not?
 
I also would like to know if the people who made the reviews are sci-fi fans. In the past you would have reviewers who would never like anything from the genre so that creates doubt IMO to just how much they can be trusted.

Jason
 
Thanks for the Rickroll.
:hugegrin: I thought the retro cheap look worked pretty well.

I love how ambitious even crappy Japanese scifi is. In Day the Earth Stood Still they waxed grandly about a galactic empire afraid of Earth far offstage, but the damn Japanese stick some coneheads and tinker toy robots together in front of a backdrop and actually show it! We could all take a lesson.

RAMA
 
Perhaps that's exactly why she was offered and/or took the role? Gods forbid someone be judged by the merits of their performance and not their appearance, whoever they are.

People should think of this as something similar to Jolene Blalock playing T'Pol on Enterprise.

Wow, that looks so much like "Hyperdrive" the BBC should sue!

Except that it's not.
 
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Another negative review about the first 3 episodes:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/reviews/orville-review-seth-macfarlane-star-trek-fox-1202544522/

An air of self-congratulation hangs over the entire hour, as if MacFarlane, who wrote it, couldn’t get over his awe at his own bravery in engaging with a difficult, complex topic. Without giving anything away, suffice it to say that the show takes a big creative swing tackling issues of gender and identity, but it does not connect, and the end result is disastrous. If it’s challenging for “The Orville” to wring laughs from the audience, it’s all but impossible for it to earn the dramatic (and tone-deaf) conclusion it attempts in the third episode.
 
I understand the reviewer's points, but I wish they could stay away from the stupid Trek puns or references. It makes the reviewer seem to be pandering and condescending.

More to the point, it undercuts her criticism of the show's lame humor. A Tribble joke? Really?

Ryan's otherwise not a bad writer - she used to work for a Chicago paper, I think? Big nuBSG booster then.
 
More to the point, it undercuts her criticism of the show's lame humor. A Tribble joke? Really?

Ryan's otherwise not a bad writer - she used to work for a Chicago paper, I think? Big nuBSG booster then.
Oh, I know. I'm sure I've read some of her reviews before, and she does know what to look for in a show. She's one of the few I will read and see her point on things, even in huge disagreement!

But using the stupid jokes like that is a turn off and would actually make me watch the show and find good things in it, to spite her!
 
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