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News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

Got mine, and I flipped through it, and it looks great. I've got some stuff I want to read first, but this has jumped fairly high up in my to read list.
 
I wonder if the fact that Discovery is spending so much time in their Mirror Universe will have any effect on the chances of getting a Discovery one?
At this point they've done some episodes that were practically remakes of earlier Trek episodes, but I wonder if they'd be a bit more hesitant when the storyline is ongoing on a show that's airing right now.
 
My only very minor issue with The World of The Orville is that since I could only get it as a hardcover instead of an ebook, I won't be able to zoom in to get a better look at the artwork. Most of the other books like this I've gotten lately have been e-books, so I got used to being able to zoom in to get a better look at some of the more detailed pieces.
 
The Orville reuses premises that were used on Trek (and often on other sf movies and TV shows). They've yet to do a remake of a Trek episode. Mapping plot points from one script to another doesn't meaningfully constitute a remake when the themes and context of the overall story are very different.

Does anyone remember that Lost In Space did a "Mirror Universe" episode within a month or two of Trek's?
 
JD said:
I wonder if the fact that Discovery is spending so much time in their Mirror Universe will have any effect on the chances of getting a Discovery one?
At this point they've done some episodes that were practically remakes of earlier Trek episodes, but I wonder if they'd be a bit more hesitant when the storyline is ongoing on a show that's airing right now.
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Evil or darker alternate universes are a pretty common trope that I'm satisfied they can do one on Orville without it seeming derivative. Though, personally I'd prefer if they try to have some fun with the concept, instead of an alternate universe where everyone is evil and treacherous and Bortus has a goatee, they should do an alternate universe that's grim-dark and everyone is depressed, miserable and hates each other. Basically a riff on Ron Moore's BSG in contrast to Orville's usual riff on Star Trek.
 
Yeah, I think that would be a lot more interesting - and I'd expect The Orville to make this premise interesting and fun.

What about just a universe where Kelly is the captain of the Orville? Maybe Ed has never existed. Maybe Ed is the one who travels to the other universe. And maybe in an hour they go lightly through the plots of several of last year's shows, which Ed tries to steer Kelly and the crew through because of what he knows, with really skewed and unfortunate results. That would be in this show's wheelhouse.
 
King Daniel Beyond said:
Has anyone seen this? It just popped up on the Facebook Renegades page:
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Quite the foreshadowing when you think back on his appearance in ST-ENT:
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Serveaux said:
Mercer has never been a buffoon. That's sort of the point of his character. He's been capable since the pilot.

He is socially awkward, which is the real running joke of his character. MacFarlane pulls that off a great deal more plausibly than Stewart did the "not good with children" thing, but that's mainly because the Trek writers didn't know how to do anything as subtext in those days.
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Would someone that awkward ever be put in a leadership position, though? He comes across like the store manager who wants to be buddies with his staff, not a military commander capable of life or death decisions.
I enjoyed seeing Mercer improvise to take out the Krill ship; it worked fine.
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It reminded me of the kind of technobabble ass-pulls they kept pulling out in TNG and Voyager. The silly loop-de-loop the Enterprise did in "The Expanse", or Chakotay's "blow up an antimatter pod" thing in "Resolutions" for example.
That kind of thing was why Kelly was able to successfully lobby to have him made captain to begin with; as Admiral Halsey pointed out, up until the divorce he was fast-tracked because he was so good.

HALSEY: Honestly, we would've offered you a command earlier, but you haven't really inspired anyone with all that much confidence this past year...Ed, I remember when you were at Union Point. You were at the top of your class. Your teachers all thought you'd be captaining a heavy cruiser before 40.
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They needed to show it more than tell it at the start, IMHO. What they showed us doesn't line up with him easily kicking the ass of a Krill ship twice their size.
 
JD said:
My only very minor issue with The World of The Orville is that since I could only get it as a hardcover instead of an ebook, I won't be able to zoom in to get a better look at the artwork. Most of the other books like this I've gotten lately have been e-books, so I got used to being able to zoom in to get a better look at some of the more detailed pieces.
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Ever heard of a magnifier?
 
JD said:
My only very minor issue with The World of The Orville is that since I could only get it as a hardcover instead of an ebook, I won't be able to zoom in to get a better look at the artwork. Most of the other books like this I've gotten lately have been e-books, so I got used to being able to zoom in to get a better look at some of the more detailed pieces.
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I'll bet you still tried to get it zoom didn't you?:nyah:
 
Last night was the episode where the Doc, her kids (they have families on board the Orville?) and Isaac have a shuttle crash.

It was very Generic Voyager Episode, apart from Dr Finn stabbing her captor to death.
 
King Daniel Beyond said:
Last night was the episode where the Doc, her kids (they have families on board the Orville?) and Isaac have a shuttle crash.

It was very Generic Voyager Episode, apart from Dr Finn stabbing her captor to death.
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"Into the Fold" is one of my favorites. Nice character work all the way around.
 
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