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News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

Jedi_Master said:
I agree. She is growing on me...and appears to be one of the most well-rounded characters on the show.
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She grew on me from the word "go!" but I have a soft-spot for attractive women and it grows even softer for women with some level of dominance and power. If highly enjoyed every scene she's been in, the young actress playing her is playing her very well.
 
Trekker4747 said:
She grew on me from the word "go!" but I have a soft-spot for attractive women and it grows even softer for women with some level of dominance and power. If highly enjoyed every scene she's been in, the young actress playing her is playing her very well.
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The only characters I like so far are her (Alara), the Doctor and the A.I. lifeform/androids. The rest (including Mecer and his Exec - meh.) YMMV.
 
Alara, Bortus and Dr. Finn are probably my favorite characters so far, Issac is growing on me but I find it hard to get around the cheap, almost B-movie, quality of his costume. Lamar we've really not dealt with enough for me to have much of any opinion and like Mercer and Grayson okay. Gordon I can go either way on depending on what notch he has his humor turned up to.
 
Whoot!
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Good news, and a surprisingly early announcement.

Wonder if it'll get a larger episode order as well.
 
Here's the announcement via Deadline:

Seth MacFarlane’s space adventure series The Orville has been picked up for a second season by Fox. The decision comes seven episodes into The Orville‘s 13-episode first season. Because of the show’s elaborate production and post-production, including visual effects, The Orville had been intended for a limited season, and the early renewal will give it a head start on Season 2 whose exact length is TBD.

“Once again Seth has struck a powerful chord with viewers,” said Fox Entertainment president Michael Thorn. “He has delivered a series full of optimism, drama and his trademark humor. We want to thank him and the rest of the talented cast, as well as the producers and crew, for an incredible first season. We can’t wait to see where The Orvilletravels in the second.”
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Yeah, apparently it's Fox's first renewal this season of a new series. According to Variety:

"The series has averaged a 2.5 rating in the 18-49 demo, according to Nielsen live-plus-seven ratings, making it the third highest rated new drama in the key demo this season."
 
:techman: Yay! :techman: At least I know I'll be entertained for part of next year. I'm so excited I'm going to need a pair of pants brought to my desk.
 
137th Gebirg said:
Took me a while to remember what that one was about. After looking through Memory Alpha it started coming back to me. Yes, there were children aboard the transport which appeared quickly in the middle of a pitched battle between Worf on the Defiant and other Klingon vessels, and got accidentally destroyed in the melee. The episode does effectively describe the high cost of war, but there is a fundamental difference - there was no pause to ascertain the existence of the civilian vessel and make a conscious and careful decision to work around it, by either side. Either it all happened to quickly or both sides were being too careless and it happened, with the full implications about what exactly occurred not being evaluated until long after the incident in question. So yes, DS9 did broach the subject - tangentially - but not directly like Orville just did. This is also why I loved DS9 so much...
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I think you should watch the episode again, because you don't quite have it right. The Klingons sent an empty civilian ship into the battle and purposefully decloaked it following a pattern established by a bird of prey with the purpose of getting Worf to fire on the ship, so they could charge him with war crimes, extradite him to Qo'nos, and punish him (basically for siding with the Federation during the conflict). The whole point of the episode was whether or not Worf's bloodlust overrode his duties to caution and non-combatants. Additionally, the Klingons were never involved in the decision, or lack of a decision, to be wary of non-combatants - contrary to what you state in your summary.

So it does directly address non-combatants in combat, but doesn't specifically consider the lives of children on enemy warships. That is mostly addressed from Starfleet's perspective by their principle of "we don't fire first" and in the case of TNG/VOY "we only fire when we absolutely have to and only the bare minimum even to our own detriment". In those cases the fight is in self-defense and civilians on board the aggressive enemy ship are not a driving concern.

Noname Given said:
The only characters I like so far are her (Alara), the Doctor and the A.I. lifeform/androids. The rest (including Mecer and his Exec - meh.) YMMV.
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Trekker4747 said:
Alara, Bortus and Dr. Finn are probably my favorite characters so far, Issac is growing on me but I find it hard to get around the cheap, almost B-movie, quality of his costume. Lamar we've really not dealt with enough for me to have much of any opinion and like Mercer and Grayson okay. Gordon I can go either way on depending on what notch he has his humor turned up to.
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I personally like Ed, Malloy, and Kelly best and Alara is often good. My wife and I really like Bortas' dry delivery, but outside of that I don't think he adds much. I dislike John (the helmsman) because he also doesn't really add much to the show. I dislike the Doctor cause I don't think Penny knows what to do with the character and her delivery is weird. And I dislike Issac the most because he has no interesting character traits, adds nothing to the show, and is just really bland and pointless (outside of his one shining moment of the practical jokes).
 
Good news on the renewal.

Though think I'll stick my hand up and say I'd prefer a 13 or so ep season rather than 22.

Prefer a shorter quality season than over a longer one that gets padded.
 
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