Set blueprint exchange
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I've finished modelling the TNG braced corridor and intersection - its taken a little longer than I hoped
The 3d model can be downloaded from my sketchup warehouse page
Blueprinting is in progress should hopefully be done soon-ish
The 3d model can be downloaded from my sketchup warehouse page
Blueprinting is in progress should hopefully be done soon-ish
I think the panels were something premade / commercially available and then cut down to size (both length and width). I am not sure of the material, but I feel this was probably the most cost effective solution at the time.
One prior example of this was in TOS - the Jefferies tube was a cardboard tube made for forming concrete pillars
In TMP, the central ceiling panel was a very long continuous strip hanging down from the arch.
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0523.jpg
In TNG this was then cut up and set between the arches.
The ceiling panels were also made narrower at the corridor intersection
As well as the material you mention, it could also be cardboard or fibreglass.
I've sent a message to Andrew Probert via his website, asking about the panel material.
One prior example of this was in TOS - the Jefferies tube was a cardboard tube made for forming concrete pillars
In TMP, the central ceiling panel was a very long continuous strip hanging down from the arch.
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0523.jpg
In TNG this was then cut up and set between the arches.
The ceiling panels were also made narrower at the corridor intersection
As well as the material you mention, it could also be cardboard or fibreglass.
I've sent a message to Andrew Probert via his website, asking about the panel material.
Andrew Probert emailed me back. He doesn't know the as he wasn't part of the construction team, just the design team.
However his guess is that they were custom made from aluminium.
However his guess is that they were custom made from aluminium.
The alternative style K beams were used in the curved corridor on TMP. It was also used on the Jenolan (set blueprint) in Relics
Here's a quick mockup diagram of the arches from straight and curved along with a screencap of the janolan set.
Those TMP like roof panels were removed in later seasons and just flattened over like the rest of the non light roof panels.
Also, I think the end room is wrong, I did my own extensive study on this a few years back, that alcove is actually about a foot narrower than the main corridor
Also, I think the end room is wrong, I did my own extensive study on this a few years back, that alcove is actually about a foot narrower than the main corridor
Thanks @Redgeneral, the way they are paired up (like the straight corridors) completely threw me off!
Still, it's a fab reuse of the unused K-beams. Makes me like Relics even more!
Still, it's a fab reuse of the unused K-beams. Makes me like Relics even more!
I am really glad you spotted it Count - I went back over my notes and saw I had written 84, but had built the alcove interior in sketchup as 90 inches wide.
I've also gone and made a camera match test to check on the dims and they also come out as 84 wide.
I think the arch in front of the alcove is actually wider than than the alcove - I make it 90 wide
I'll correct the 3d model tomorrow, and upload a new top view image
I've also gone and made a camera match test to check on the dims and they also come out as 84 wide.
I think the arch in front of the alcove is actually wider than than the alcove - I make it 90 wide
I'll correct the 3d model tomorrow, and upload a new top view image
Ahhh, see that's what got you, assuming that the arch was the same size as the others. If you look closely at screenshots, the flat part at the top of the arch facing the alcove is about half the width that it is for the rest of the kbeam corridor. The archway itself I think they just cut a piece of material out of one of the kbeams at the top, stitched them back together and stuck the "narrowed" version at the hallway to the turbolift junction.
From a distance, it doesn't look any different, but in the close ups you can clearly see the spacing is a lot smaller.
From a distance, it doesn't look any different, but in the close ups you can clearly see the spacing is a lot smaller.
I did actually make the alcove's arch narrower than the regular ones. The full archway width is 104", with the cut down archway is 90".
My mistake was that I made the alcove the same width as the cut down archway, when the alcove is actually 84"
My mistake was that I made the alcove the same width as the cut down archway, when the alcove is actually 84"
Its been a bit hectic the last few days, but I've updated the model on sketchup warehouse and created a new image showing the current alcove form the top, and a comparison of the standard arch vs the narrow arch
Great job on this.
As to the panels. I think they were all originally custom rolled aluminum panels. When they made new or additional walls, years later, sometimes they looked different, and were probably wood. A guy who bought wall sections from the TNG set replicas from These Are the Voyages said someone on the production said as such. What I've always been curious about is the surface treatment because sometimes they look like shiny brushed aluminum, sometime dull...and even sometimes painted. I've even considered that they used metallic film on occasion. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on.
As to the panels. I think they were all originally custom rolled aluminum panels. When they made new or additional walls, years later, sometimes they looked different, and were probably wood. A guy who bought wall sections from the TNG set replicas from These Are the Voyages said someone on the production said as such. What I've always been curious about is the surface treatment because sometimes they look like shiny brushed aluminum, sometime dull...and even sometimes painted. I've even considered that they used metallic film on occasion. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on.
IIRC, in TMP, the panels they used for E-deck (the "officers' deck") had a reddish carpeting on them - probably to give it a more 5-star hotel look for the officers than what was used on the "lower decks". You can see this in the old cutaway poster from 1979 and in a few screen caps following the Kirk/Decker confrontation scene.
While I would agree that the panels on the other "decks" appear to be brushed aluminum, these other panels with the carpeting could have been made out of any kind of material (likely wood, which would have been cheaper and faster to prepare than custom aluminum fabrication). What's more is that I don't think we ever saw the red carpeting on the walls since that time (the scene with Kirk running to Spock's breached quarters in the beginning of TSFS had the aluminum panels on the wall). I'm thinking they probably peeled the carpeting off those pieces because they were too difficult to maintain and tried to repaint/repurpose them for other scenes in other movies and shows, which would explain the different look.
I'm willing to bet most or all of those "different looking" panels that people keep seeing were these formerly-carpeted pieces.
While I would agree that the panels on the other "decks" appear to be brushed aluminum, these other panels with the carpeting could have been made out of any kind of material (likely wood, which would have been cheaper and faster to prepare than custom aluminum fabrication). What's more is that I don't think we ever saw the red carpeting on the walls since that time (the scene with Kirk running to Spock's breached quarters in the beginning of TSFS had the aluminum panels on the wall). I'm thinking they probably peeled the carpeting off those pieces because they were too difficult to maintain and tried to repaint/repurpose them for other scenes in other movies and shows, which would explain the different look.
I'm willing to bet most or all of those "different looking" panels that people keep seeing were these formerly-carpeted pieces.
137th Gebirg - I wonder if the reason for abandoning the carpet coated panels was also partially because of the time it took to switch them out the aluminium ones. I think they left it as one style rather than use up production time.
You are probably right that these panels were probably recycled to mimic the aluminium ones
On a side note, there is been a new blueprint on ebay - the Holodeck Train Cab from TNG:Emergance
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/30377236614/in/dateposted-public/
Source: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trek-and-...807105?hash=item3d2bf9f741:g:heEAAOSwj85YNQJL
There has previously been two other images of this plan on the flickr albums:
(a) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/24458894423/in/album-72157657682602128/
(b) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/24967596332/in/album-72157657682602128/
You are probably right that these panels were probably recycled to mimic the aluminium ones
On a side note, there is been a new blueprint on ebay - the Holodeck Train Cab from TNG:Emergance
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/30377236614/in/dateposted-public/
Source: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trek-and-...807105?hash=item3d2bf9f741:g:heEAAOSwj85YNQJL
There has previously been two other images of this plan on the flickr albums:
(a) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/24458894423/in/album-72157657682602128/
(b) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/24967596332/in/album-72157657682602128/
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