Well I personally didn't have a problem either. But it seems many did. Granted it helped they also had better pop music in their video. Granted nothing will beat "Logan" using "Hurt" by Johnny Cash but Lenny Kravitiz is a pretty good singer to use.
Jason
How did it help? What statistics exist? Lots of people have been bleating against it, even if they liked everything else in the teaser. Depends on which DW forum you're reading through and a few exist. But whatever pandering needs to be done, do it. The show won't last long if it has nothing more to offer than putting trademark names over generic soap opera with modern day top-10 hits that all sound like wailing autotuned banshees over a 2-track note of limited octaves...
Can't we just wait until the show starts to see if it's going to be good or not? Even if the first episode is different and not typical who, what is wrong with that? Some of the best tv episodes are episodes that are not typical of the format. Buffy had 4 with the musical,Hush,The Dream episode and when Buffy's mom died.
Jason
100% agreed. Always give a new incarnation several episodes, even if the first one isn't great. And for the opposite, the first one can be great but then go downhill. It's only ten episodes, they'd all have to be completely terrible to turn away so many potential audience viewers. And somehow I doubt there will be statistics reflecting more than those who like the show. Which is the same complaint frequently spouted by people during the 1980s...
And the teaser doesn't say it's using pop music every week either... For all we know it may be a one-off, arguably trying to sell a tone than actual content - the video clips used were pretty much what one expects so they're still really being tight on details. And I'd rather hear music from the actual composer instead of their licensing and shoehorning in generic overpriced noise any day of the week. Who wouldn't?
Once again, the old "someone who disagrees with me is trolling" argument
Welcome to the internet. Next up, you'll be branded all sorts of things by people who either project or are blissfully and ironically ignorant.
I love watching Doctor Who. Even Moffat's burn out era had some great episodes. This is just Doctor who in name only.
Oh come on. We have seen none of the episodes yet.
But I will say this - as much as there are a lot of stories from 2005-present I do like, there are MANY which also reek of "shoving in the trademark names and doing nothing remotely similar to the show's premise. But at least they wave the sonic screwdriver around and even made a piece of paper you can sell in a wallet for 5x the price of any old wallet, or 25x the price if you go to a thrift store where many exist that look even more authentic when placed to what was shown on the telly..."
If you're not going to watch a show you like because its hit a bad patch, you didn't really like the show in my opinion. My point is that, unless Chibnail gets the show cancelled, Doctor Who will rise from the ashes of his shit and be good again someday, and I'll be there through the garbage waiting until the show I enjoy is back. Once again, if you want a place that is just your own opinions parroted back at you, start a facebook group. A forum is not a place to go to have everyone agree with you about something.
Again, we've seen nothing and the teasers - even the latest one - are generic and may be leading astray. If the episodes are bad, we'll know soon enough. And, as usual, some criticisms will be valid and others will not be. And the usual quick accusation of "anyone who dislikes it is a bigot, simple." by the people who only remind that they might be the biggest bigots of them all in action or lack thereof.
Its up to Doctor who to not be shit, not me to leave and find something else. I already read comics and watch movies. I will not drop Doctor Who for anything. Well, ok, I suppose if Lungbarrow was suddenly canon or if the Doctor regenerated into a Clara look alike I would, but those are very specific and unlikely situations.
Also, The Good Place is awful but this is not the thread for that. But, again, even if TV wasn't mostly awful nowadays, I wouldn't drop Doctor Who.
Lungbarrow... right up there with Damaged Goods and most "New Adventures" after the underwhelming "Transit"...
As long as the creators are mindful of the show's premise and don't pander or insult audiences, they can do a lot that's still creative and engaging. The last 13 years have shown a lot of great stuff. And some shaky stuff too... same goes for any era. If anything, at least Pertwee had a reason for being stuck on Earth.
I watch it because even though Chibnail has basically stolen the name of one of my favorite Sci Fi shows for his own original production, I will still watch anything with the name attached. I've watched Enterprise, the JJ Abrams directed Trek movies, the Star Wars prequels, and the worst of Classic and NuWho so far and never dropped any of those franchises. I stick around because I know good stuff will come someday, and I'll wade through the stuff i hate because I have hope for the future.
That remains to be proven, and on an individual level you may be right and others may eventually agree with you. At worst, his episodes will be mixed bags but it's way too early to damn the new show just yet (or to praise it so freely either for that matter). Even if the teaser's schmaltzy Hallmark Channel feel turns out to be the actual format... Worst case scenario: TNG season 5 ends up being more bona fide sci-fi by comparison, and it was one of TNG's most soap opera and one-sided preachy seasons.
Then again, why does the new Doc blow a kiss in what otherwise looks like a very beige corridor? How many previous Doctors blew kisses? Chibnall claims the scripts given out were not reflective of gender stereotypes, then they show a mighty big one. So that leads to one other question, that of
who's trolling whom? Especially if that clip doesn't show up in any actual episode - never mind the context, for which all of those teasers' clips cannot begin to describe...
