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Sequel to Star Trek 2009

how about a threat from within starfleet itself?
Works for me, but this is the part where people start carping about the Section 31 idea of conflicts within Starfleet = Starfleet isn't the purely idealistic exploratory organization that some fans insist that it be.

Personally I'm willing to give drama from any source a chance. And if that source means that Starfleet has feet of clay, I won't reject it out of hand. Star Trek can have shades of grey - it just should stop well short of BSG-dom, simply so that it doesn't lose the "boundaries" that define it as Star Trek and not something else.

Throw them into such a weird and realistic environment on their quest to find something there (a cure), that their very survival and success there becomes the source of conflict and adventure--
That story isn't about exploration. It's about stopping a threat. That's why I keep saying that Star Trek isn't really about exploration at all. It's about fighting and managing threats, which sometimes are discovered in the course of exploration, and sometimes not. Which is why complains about Star Trek war stories are so off target. Even when Star Trek isn't "about a war," it's about the stuff that makes up wars (fighting and managing threats) so why quibble about semantics?

Idea: Kirk and Co. encounter Mudd doing something illegal. Mudd mentions something about "Mysterious Space Thing". Starfleet seems interested, so they send Enterprise to see "Mysterious Space Thing". Also, the Klingons (or another villain) learn of "Mysterious Space Thing" and want it too. Hijinks ensue.

Cold War vs. the Klingons which spills over into the occasional hot war. Sure, that's a good idea for a story as well. Back to the basics.

Damn, I should have posted here!

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=3155646&postcount=42

Destruction of Vulcan brings about Genesis, which Klingons steal and Sec. 31 wants back. Maybe Mudd is recruited to be their man in the black market.

We get to see a sequel about "Mysterious Space Thing" (Genesis test gave off radiation similar to a nova or something), Mudd, agressive Klingons wanting nukes, err I mean Genisis for their own "peaceful" purposes. . . the result is cold war threat management with the occasional spill over to "hot". Could be a nice way to introduce some of the popular Klingon commanders like Kor or Kang or Kodos.

Wait a second. . .
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I think it would be damn stupid to go b-a-c-k to Khan. They just made this whole movie offing characters and planets and changing galactic history...so now they're going to go back and do Kirk vs Khan all over again?! What's going to be different? Isn't Kirk going to win? They're not going to kill Spock again. Oh lemme guess...they'll kill Kirk and then young Spock will have to redo Star Trek III in the third Trek prequel.

Oh this is so incredibly frustrating that they're so completely unoriginal as to go back the Grand Poobah of Star Trek rehashery and try to redo Khan. What, they never saw Nemesis?

They could do Klingons, Gorn, Tholians...I wonder what they'd look like after Avatar comes out at the end of the year. They could do all-out war with the Romulans. Now that they've mentioned them they could even do Cardassians. They could do the Organians, First Federation, Guardian of Forever (no...ENOUGH ALREADY WITH TIME TRAVEL)...the new Squire of Gothos could be a parable about our youth-obsessed society, Harry Mudd about individualistic amorality. They could have young Captain Kirk facing legendary Starfleet Captain Garth of Izar as he's losing his mind in a sick yet brilliant cat and mouse game across the galaxy. I see it more about the tragedy of mental illness befalling a decent and brilliant man due to the strain of being a starship captain...having to be not merely a man but a superman to deal with the endless mind-fucks they come across in the mysterious depths of infinite ancient outer space. ...Look at everything Kirk and company went through in TOS: if it weren't a TV show, the events of any single episode would be enough to scar them for life.

Will Garth's madness be young promising Kirk's future if he's not careful going Out There? It could really scare the shit out of the kids afraid of growing up or teens worried about making it in the real world without losing themselves.

...Nah, too brooding. Chris Pine's Kirk is less James Dean, more Christian Slater.
 
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