semi [SPOILER]ish bully pulpit comment on Kelvin

[urbandk]

I just wanted to take a moment to comment that for me, the most emotionally poignant sequence of the film was the Kelvin battle.

This sequence conveyed emotion, tragedy, love, and loss better than anything else in the movie.

I think the reason is akin to Stalin's famous quote: "One man's death is a tragedy. A million deaths are a statistic."

This is just something I would like to note, if anyone cares to consider while planning a sequel, that human drama works most effectively, in my opinion, on an interpersonal level.

I am reminded of Anthony Lane's assessment of the Watchmen in the New Yorker, and this quote in particular: "Amid these pompous grabs at horror, neither author nor director has much grasp of what genuine, unhyped suffering might be like, or what pity should attend it; they are too busy fussing over the fate of the human race—a sure sign of metaphysical vulgarity—to be bothered with lesser plights."

Remember Spock's death from TWOK. Why did we care? Because he was a fully realized character who faced death and sacrifice. We shared in this experience.

I hope in future Star Trek outings, the end of the world won't always be in the offing.

 

[The Academic]

So, what you basically say is that, despite all the hype and the enormous special effects budget, nuTrek still retains the kind of personal level people so appreciated in TOS, TNG, DS9 and the other series/movies?

 

[KirkusOveractus]

urban - I do agree with your last sentence. However, when you are making a movie, the scope has to match the screen.

Sure, you can have epic vistas and so on, but a general movie-going audience won't sit through two hours of watching a planetary survey.

Of course, the stakes could be akin to some of TOS, where the threat was to only the Enterprise and her crew. Something like a large-screen version of "A Taste Of Armageddon" would fit nicely and translate well to the big screen.

 

[urbandk]

So, what you basically say is that, despite all the hype and the enormous special effects budget, nuTrek still retains the kind of personal level people so appreciated in TOS, TNG, DS9 and the other series/movies?

actually... better at times... it does a better job of making us care about these people right away.

that's why i'd like trek movies to focus on intimate, serious tragedy and not always get lost in SPACE PROBE/BORG/ULTIMATE WEAPON coming to destroy Earth stories.

the kelvin sequence makes the viewer care about the whole movie, in my opinion.

 

[Sector 7]

That is an interesting opinion. I agree with you that a single death can affect people more than a cataclysmic occurrence. However, on the BIG screen there is room for both, as you stated.