Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing build

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by havoc92, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. havoc92

    havoc92 Commander Red Shirt

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    Don't know how many engineers we have here; but, here goes nothin.

    My concept for the integrated systems is based around the primary energy transfer system on the spine of the ship.

    For HVAC, my idea is to run the plasma transfer conduit through a chamber that is insulated in the same manner as the conduit jacket; but, bleeds heat from the plasma transfer line into a thermal exchange unit attached to cooling towers. From here, rather than have to heat the ship, one need only cool and disperse residual energy from the plasma stream. Simple thought is that we're already generating a massive amount of heat; so, why waste energy doing the job in parallel unless we're working a backup method.?

    With regard to Fresh water stores and stored energy (ship's
    batteries), My thought is to run a system similar to the HVAC and possibly directly attached to it - using the thermal exchange/cooling process to heat water for the fresh water system on the ship and provide steam as an auxiliary for the
    backup turbines and battery systems. Said steam could also be ramped into a stepdown to provide atmospheric humidity controls. In the event of Total loss of main power from Main and Auxilliary Engineering, The plasma transfer core should remain radiant for quite a while
    Allowing for the means of providing support on Auxiliary basis. Granted, the system won't be perpetual and will only last so long as there is heat sufficient in the plasma transfer lines to
    source energy from. But, then, this is a last ditch type system and Auxiliary systems usually are only temporary in nature anyway.

    I haven't read any technical briefs on how this was seen as functioning by anyone else and am not certain such a thing actually exists; So, this is my approach and thought on the matter. There may be unforseen consequences of the application that I'm not seeing; so, I'd welcome any input.
    And if there is an explanation already in existance that I haven't seen as yet, I'd welcome any pointers to it. Thanks guys.

    Edit:
    Here's a rough diagram of the idea

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  2. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    What is this in relation to? are you building a model? graphic image? spine of what ship?

    Edit to add: Ah, this must be for your TOS: E build. In truth, I doubt anyone is actually going to do the engineering work to see if your plumbing actually works.
     
  3. TIN_MAN

    TIN_MAN Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    Well, I for one think it would be fun to see the basics worked out at least. Though I confess I’m a curmudgeon, not an engineer, so I don’t know how discriminating I’ll be. ;)
     
  4. The Axeman

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    Isn't this basically the system used on nuclear submarines right now? They use nuclear fission rather than matter/antimatter annihilation to generate the heat, but I think pretty much everything else is basically the same. Heat is exchanged from the closed loop reactor coolant to a transfer line and used to make steam. The high pressure steam then turns turbines to provide the electricity used to drive the engines and life support.
     
  5. havoc92

    havoc92 Commander Red Shirt

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    So, in principle, I'm on the right track then. That's what I needed to hear. ;)
     
  6. Ziz

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    You might be better taking this to Trek Tech.
     
  7. Gagarin

    Gagarin Commander Red Shirt

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    Re: Seeking input - technical integrated systems ideas for ongoing bui

    Great point about the heat is already generated - why work to cool it, and then use power to make heat somewhere else.

    As you work more things out, make sure that gravity control is under-powered. The Enerprise had a habit of slipping into .8 gravity when under duress. =)