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Season Seven's Slugglish Stories

Seven of Five

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Meh.

My big TOS and TNG rewatch has hit another slugglish spot. I shot through the first two seasons of TOS with great speed, and then of course the third season came and knocked me down a peg or five. We all know the behind the scenes stories: another drop in budget; most of the S1/2 writing talent had moved on; Roddenberry stepping down as showrunner. There were some highlights along the way, but it's a hard season to sell to a new viewer.

And so I continued with the TOS films, and started TNG. The situation was different here. Season one was one of the worst, with very obvious growing pains showing how the producers were struggling to get a handle on the series. Another tough season to binge through, but what helped was a lot of wonderful music, and the crew were usually amazed at what they were discovering. Season two was a massive step up in consistency, which led to seasons 3-6 that were, for the large part, great viewing.

And then I started season seven. I used to be able to watch this season with rose-tinted glasses, as this was when I originally got into TNG, back when I was 12. I don't know if it's the passage of time and me being more cynical, but it's been a real slog through these episodes.

We have again have more stories of why this happened: the producers were distracted with setting up VOY and continuing DS9; Braga and Moore in particular were busy crafting the All Good Things... and Generations; and thus the writing staff left were burnt out. I understand the family theme the writers went with in order to wrap the show up with, but the way it was done was dull. Everyone seemed to have relatives or secret relatives they knew nothing of, and only some of these stories were done well.

It's such an inconsistent year. With Parallels, Pegasus, Lower Decks, Preemptive Strike and All Good Things... we had some of the series' best, but of course, we also had the opposite, with crap such as Force of Nature, Sub Rosa, Masks, Genesis and Emergence.

There were also lots of middle of the road/below average episodes too: Descent Part 2, Thine Own Self, Liaisons, Interface, Eye of the Beholder, Journey's End, and Bloodlines.

Meh indeed. Too many patches of mediocrity.

Anyway.This thread is kind of a messy, rambling about mediocrity in TNG S7. Almost like the show itself. What episodes stand out for you? Are there any scenes you like in the poorer episodes? What aspects do you find underrated? What are your 'favourite' bad episodes? And which ones just plain stink?

I will say Genesis is a bit of a guilty pleasure, purely for Dr. Crusher being sprayed in the face by Worf. What a shriek! :devil:
 
I think I need to invest in TNG and have a binge watch myself, it's been ages since I last saw an episode!
 
I think I need to invest in TNG and have a binge watch myself, it's been ages since I last saw an episode.

That was my thinking, but with TOS as well. I was thinking a special watch for the 50th Anniversary, which also celebrates about 20 years since I started watching TNG. :eek:
 
I'm not sure the writers being overly busy was itself the issue - I thought Echevarria, Braga and even Moore were a bit inconsistent in the previous seasons as well as this one. But Piller seems less involved (he did increase the focus of "All Good Things..." and, maybe for the worse, changed the plot of what became "Firstborn") and Taylor was in charge but maybe a bit apathetic and both indeed more concerned with Voyager.

I think "Dark Page" and "Attached" (some of the best episodes for the characters and, along with "The Pegasus", examples of retcons that really worked) and to a lesser degree "Phantasms" and "Interface" (pretty effective although with underwhelming endings) are generally underrated. "Preemptive Strike", "The Pegasus," "Parallels" and "All Good Things..." deserve their high popularity.

Gul Evek was really good and Picard pretty good in "Journey's End" and it was interesting how "Journey's End" and "Preemptive Strike" were pretty morally grey with no easy solutions if not having the main cast in the wrong.

I think the writing and acting of Data and Worf become pretty stale yet Data got a bunch of episodes that don't really try to or succeed in further developing him. It was also frustrating how the amount of technobabble and use of the reset button seemed to go way up even in OK or good episodes (it's not really Picard's son or La Forge's mother, the warp speed limitation is almost completely ignored, a Worf/Troi romance is teased out, the Picard/Crusher relationship is pretty much ignored after "Attached," Data's nightmares were externally caused, Riker gets completely forgiven at the end of "The Pegasus", the "Liaisons" stories were just experiments, future Alexander in "Firstborn" quickly changes his mind at the end, Data loses his memory of "Thine Own Self", there are no consequences for the events of "Masks", "Genesis" or "Emergence"); an occasional reset button, as in the prior seasons, is fine or tolerable but it really predominated here. On the other hand you've also got some big retcons that don't convince or work (Soong had a wife, Beverly's grandmother had apparently been possessed for who knows how long, Wesley has been unhappy for years and was just trying to fulfill expectations).
 
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Masks was brilliant and critically well received when it came out, and Genesis was at least entertaining, if inaccurate scientifically. Yes, season 7 was inconsistent, but it had enough strong episodes to raise it above most shows. I would have no problems showing that season first to a newcomer. I'd rank it far above season 3 of TOS.

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Meh.

My big TOS and TNG rewatch has hit another slugglish spot. I shot through the first two seasons of TOS with great speed, and then of course the third season came and knocked me down a peg or five. We all know the behind the scenes stories: another drop in budget; most of the S1/2 writing talent had moved on; Roddenberry stepping down as showrunner. There were some highlights along the way, but it's a hard season to sell to a new viewer.

And so I continued with the TOS films, and started TNG. The situation was different here. Season one was one of the worst, with very obvious growing pains showing how the producers were struggling to get a handle on the series. Another tough season to binge through, but what helped was a lot of wonderful music, and the crew were usually amazed at what they were discovering. Season two was a massive step up in consistency, which led to seasons 3-6 that were, for the large part, great viewing.

And then I started season seven. I used to be able to watch this season with rose-tinted glasses, as this was when I originally got into TNG, back when I was 12. I don't know if it's the passage of time and me being more cynical, but it's been a real slog through these episodes.

We have again have more stories of why this happened: the producers were distracted with setting up VOY and continuing DS9; Braga and Moore in particular were busy crafting the All Good Things... and Generations; and thus the writing staff left were burnt out. I understand the family theme the writers went with in order to wrap the show up with, but the way it was done was dull. Everyone seemed to have relatives or secret relatives they knew nothing of, and only some of these stories were done well.

It's such an inconsistent year. With Parallels, Pegasus, Lower Decks, Preemptive Strike and All Good Things... we had some of the series' best, but of course, we also had the opposite, with crap such as Force of Nature, Sub Rosa, Masks, Genesis and Emergence.

There were also lots of middle of the road/below average episodes too: Descent Part 2, Thine Own Self, Liaisons, Interface, Eye of the Beholder, Journey's End, and Bloodlines.

Meh indeed. Too many patches of mediocrity.

Anyway.This thread is kind of a messy, rambling about mediocrity in TNG S7. Almost like the show itself. What episodes stand out for you? Are there any scenes you like in the poorer episodes? What aspects do you find underrated? What are your 'favourite' bad episodes? And which ones just plain stink?

I will say Genesis is a bit of a guilty pleasure, purely for Dr. Crusher being sprayed in the face by Worf. What a shriek! :devil:
 
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