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Season Fred Monsters Unofficially officially announced. [SPOILERS]

A DS9 Bajoran. No, a Bajoran doesn't fool you into thinking he's actually an alien, but at least he doesn't look like a bad Halloween costume.

I'd take a well-done-but-recognizably-person-in-make alien over an obviously-a-guy-in-a-rubber-costume-out-of-a-cheap-B-movie alien any day of the week.

I'd agree with you, but I see what they mean. It looks more alien, but looking more alien is no good if it looks like shit.

I don't disagree, but I think there has to be some middle ground. I wouldn't want a man in a suit every week, but by the same token shows can get lazy (yes I'm looking at you Star Trek) especially when you have to have a monster/alien every week. I think while sometimes the man in the suit can look rubbish, at other times it can work really well, and I;'d rather they at least tried to do something that looekd alien and didn't quite always pull it off than become lazy and just slap putty into different parts of people's faces. This is a similar issue to the future clothing one. Now it's really easy to muck up totally trying to create future fashions, but again at least it shows some level of imagination that you try sometimes. This is science fiction not Corrie!

We've had a few "Man in a suit" style monsters and aliens though, the Cybermen for one. Those aliens in The Doctor's Daughter (if they count), the space flies from The Planet of the Dead...
 
I'd agree with you, but I see what they mean. It looks more alien, but looking more alien is no good if it looks like shit.

I don't disagree, but I think there has to be some middle ground. I wouldn't want a man in a suit every week, but by the same token shows can get lazy (yes I'm looking at you Star Trek) especially when you have to have a monster/alien every week. I think while sometimes the man in the suit can look rubbish, at other times it can work really well, and I;'d rather they at least tried to do something that looekd alien and didn't quite always pull it off than become lazy and just slap putty into different parts of people's faces. This is a similar issue to the future clothing one. Now it's really easy to muck up totally trying to create future fashions, but again at least it shows some level of imagination that you try sometimes. This is science fiction not Corrie!

We've had a few "Man in a suit" style monsters and aliens though, the Cybermen for one. Those aliens in The Doctor's Daughter (if they count), the space flies from The Planet of the Dead...

The Ood!
 
Also, a lot of the monsters from the new series look better when they're moving than when they're standing still. The Ood looked supremely silly to me until I saw "The Impossible Planet".
 
The Silurians pictured BTW are the ones from Davison's Warriors From The Deep, not the original Pertwee story. In the story, the Silurian design was altered a bit, having them wear an armored shell, having them 'speak' through their third eye, which lit up when they spoke (Like the Daleks 'ears'), having them have a goofy, high-pitched voice instead of the more reptilian ones they had. They even acted like 80's Cybermen: "Excellent!"

The Sea Devils in the serial fared a bit better. They were given samuraiesque armor that was from "Warrior's Gate" but it kind of worked out. Plus they kept their original raspy voices. It looks from the photos that they are keeping the Samurai asthetic, although they've made it less cumbersome. It'd be interesting if we get a CG Myrka. The Mill has proven they can make some of the larger TOS monsters look cool with the Macra.


However, there is the Myrka. Basically the whole thing was a giant pantomime horse which looked like an oversized sea devil. It's probably one of the worst Doctor Who monsters ever, and there's a hilarious scene where it has a karate fight with Ingrid Pitt. No, I'm not kidding.


"Warriors" has a bad reputation among fans, in case anybody was wondering ;) It did start a trend in Doctor Who of the Doctor NOT saving the day entirely; he managed to save the world, yes; but everybody on the base was dead despite the Doctor's best efforts to negotiate. "There should have been another way."


I'm curious as to what's going to happen this time. One of the interesting aspects of the novels is that eventually the Silurians and Sea Devils, like the Ice Warriors, do eventually become a peaceful race and co-habitate with men. Of course there's also the nifty novel "Blood Heat" where the Doctor visits an alternate timeline where he died during the events in Silurians.
 
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Warriors of the Deep would have worked a lot better if they'd just turned the lights down a bit, gloom would have hidden a multitude of sins and allowed the positives to be more prominant.

Five's "There should have been another way." is probably the real antithesis to Nine's "Everybody lives!"
 
Funny thing about season twenty-one; it's one of the darker seasons story and tone-wise. But the monsters in the season were really awful.


Even the Daleks suffered, despite the story (Ressurection) being even darker than "Warriors". The Dalek costumes themselves were of really shoddy quality (Although Terry Molloy's Davros was OK), and you could see the molding rods on the top. And as a further indignity, there were the Dalek troopers, who looked like an unholy mix of a Dalek, the Star Wars Death Star troopers, and a mouseketeer:

http://www.drwhoexhibitions.co.uk/images/Blackpool/Derek-trooper85.jpg
 
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The Dalek troopers were mainly mercenaries, although Davros did manage to mind-control one of their commanders.
 
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