Season 4 title sequence - has anyone else noticed...

[Vale]

...That the Discovery doesn't always have the correct configuration? When the titles start and the ship is being drawn she's got the 32nd century 1031-A refit configuration – holes in the nacelle pylons, no saucer cross bridges, more complex neck shape...

...Then in the next part she's got the original 23rd century 1031 configuration, except for the detached 32nd century nacelles. The original saucer cross bridges and straight neck are really noticeable.

 

[Tuskin38]

probably forgot to do new renders for those shots so they detatched the nacelles in post. Or a temp render that wasn't replaced.

The nacelles are also pre-refit design.

 

[F. King Daniel]

ART GUY WHO THOUGHT HE COULD GO HOME EARLY ONE DAY AND THAT NOBODY WOULD EVER NOTICE: *sweating*

 

[XCV330]

Zora switches it all back to original config when she parks the ship in the 42nd century, anyway.

 

[The Wormhole]

No, I can't say that I noticed this.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Zora switches it all back to original config when she parks the ship in the 42nd century, anyway.

Couldn't it be that the Discovery never ends up in the 42nd century and that the conflict between the Federation and Craft's people is simply because of the anomaly and possible evacuation orders?

Iirc it was never said that "Calypso" is set 1000 years after the 32nd century, just approximately this amount of time after Disco (which when the short trek was released was still set in the 23rd century).

And the producers apparently want to let the show stay in the 32nd century.

 

[Blooded]

Iirc it was never said that "Calypso" is set 1000 years after the 32nd century, just approximately this amount of time after Disco (which when the short trek was released was still set in the 23rd century).
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Haven’t seen Calypso in quite some time, so my memory might be jogging, but pretty sure Zora says the ship has been abandoned for 1,000 years. No date was ever given for when that might have been, people have just assumed [since Such Sweet Sorrow] that it was referring to the near 1,000 years between Seasons 2 and 3.

Calypso taking place in the 42bd century makes much more sense, to be honest. No idea how they’ll explain the change in shape design, mind.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Haven’t seen Calypso in quite some time, so my memory might be jogging, but pretty sure Zora says the ship has been abandoned for 1,000 years. No date was ever given for when that might have been, people have just assumed [since Such Sweet Sorrow] that it was referring to the near 1,000 years between Seasons 2 and 3.

Calypso taking place in the 42bd century makes much more sense, to be honest. No idea how they’ll explain the change in shape design, mind.

Good points. But couldn't Zora simply have been lying or twisting the truth a bit?

I think the war with Craft's people having started because of the anomaly, would make a lot of sense. Considering that Michelle Paradise compared the situation in Season 4 to Covid.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Michelle Paradise compared the situation in Season 4 to Covid.

The hell?

 

[Tuskin38]

The hell?

People being used to isolation (the Burn) having to come back into the world and working together. I believe that's what she meant.

Shes not the only one on the team that has made the Covid comparison.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Ah, so it's not the anomaly that's Covid, but the Burn? I can understand that angle.

 

[The Wormhole]

No, it is the anomaly itself that is supposed to be an analogy for the pandemic. IIRC, since the writing for season 4 began during the lockdown in spring 2020, much of that mindset informed the writers' approach for the storylines of the season, and the way the anomaly impacts day to day life for the characters is supposed to mimic how the pandemic impacted our day to day lives in the real world.

 

[Farscape One]

What if the DMA is that Discovery from "CALYPSO", only even further ahead in time?

 

[Sakonna]

Haven’t seen Calypso in quite some time, so my memory might be jogging, but pretty sure Zora says the ship has been abandoned for 1,000 years. No date was ever given for when that might have been, people have just assumed [since Such Sweet Sorrow] that it was referring to the near 1,000 years between Seasons 2 and 3.

Good points. But couldn't Zora simply have been lying or twisting the truth a bit?

I think the war with Craft's people having started because of the anomaly, would make a lot of sense. Considering that Michelle Paradise compared the situation in Season 4 to Covid.

God, are they still claiming "Calypso" is going to tie-in? It just seems like it was such a clear first draft of ideas they subsequently discarded, or revised into something different. It'll be so ridiculous if they try to tag another 1,000 year jump on the end of this series somehow.

Craft being a clear first draft of Book, I wonder if Craft would have ended up in a love triangle with Burnham and the ship...

Anyway, on thread topic -- those detached nacelles look terrible in the teaser shots! The credits look much goofier this season than in previous years.

 

[Vale]

God, are they still claiming "Calypso" is going to tie-in? It just seems like it was such a clear first draft of ideas they subsequently discarded, or revised into something different. It'll be so ridiculous if they try to tag another 1,000 year jump on the end of this series somehow.

 

[Tim Thomason]

What if the DMA is that Discovery from "CALYPSO", only even further ahead in time?

What if the DMA is simply the friends we've made along the way?

 

[Sci]

God, are they still claiming "Calypso" is going to tie-in? It just seems like it was such a clear first draft of ideas they subsequently discarded, or revised into something different. It'll be so ridiculous if they try to tag another 1,000 year jump on the end of this series somehow.

Craft being a clear first draft of Book,

What on earth do Craft and Book have in common? They're completely different characters with different backgrounds, character arcs, and motivations.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Black guys from the future? That's pretty much it.

 

[Char Kais]

Craft being a clear first draft of Book

What on earth do Craft and Book have in common? They're completely different characters with different backgrounds, character arcs, and motivations.

You do know the meaning of "first draft"?

1000 years in a dystopian future.
People have forgotten their past.
V'draysh.

 

[shapeshifter]

He could be incognito by "then", "changed" his name and "history" for "some" reason.