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Season 1 and the first 4 episodes

I will say though that she certainly didn't seem uncomfortable acting intimately in the corridor with the crewman.

I'd forgotten about that tbh. I was just kidding because I always felt that sleeping with the robot was akin to her reaching for a vibrator.
 
I found it very hard to watch the first two seasons, it was difficult to pay attention for some of the episodes. But there were some gems to be taken from season 1 and 2 despite their shortcomings.
 
I love both the first and second season. I would take a season 1 ep over MANY season 6 or 7 eps.
 
I just watched "The Naked Now" and found it to be quite the enjoyable episode. It was fast paced, had some funny moments, and had an amazingly epic Ron Jones score (just imagine if late TNG episodes like say "Starship Mine" or "The Pegasus" had that kind of score!!!). Even the much-reviled "Code of Honor" has some great Picard/Lutan banter, good dialogue and again, a great score.
 
Another reason why I like the rather stark contrast between seasons one and two compared to the rest of the series is that it helped make it seem as though time was truly passing. I'd expect things (which were a result of production quality) to look different over time.

In addition, in the first two seasons the crew was literally supposed to be adjusting to one another and the new Enterprise. It makes sense dramatically that the crew would start to gel more as time progressed. Even though the true reason might have been poor writing or inexperience, you can pretend/imagine that the crew initially hadn't adjusted yet to their roles on the ship or their relationships to each other. You could say they felt restrained/tense, which showed up in the form of poorer acting etc.

I like it.
 
I found the first few episodes a bit stiff and unco-ordinated but I put that down to it being a new show nad the actors getting used to each other. The wors of the first four for me 'The Naked Now', the story line was good but I think it was our old friend Wes, it may helped to make drunk for real:lol:
 
If TNG had a start like that today it would of been cancelled. The 1st season is very hit n miss though I do adore the season finale with the Romulans returning and the offscreen signs of the BORG.
 
Season one was pretty rough, but I thought it had a few gems. My top five would be:

Where No One Has Gone Before
The Big Goodbye
11001001
Heart of Glory
Conspiracy

Season two was shorter, but better than season one, pound-for-pound. My top five would be:

A Matter of Honor
The Measure of a Man
Q Who
The Emissary
Peak Performance
 
My faves from Season 1:

*Encounter at Farpoint
*The Naked Now
*Code of Honor
*Haven
*The Big Goodbye
*11001001
*When the Bough Breaks
*Home Soil
*Coming of Age
*Heart of Glory
*The Arsenal of Freedom
*Conspiracy
*The Neutral Zone

Season 2:

*The Schizoid Man

(I haven't seen Peak Performance or A Matter of Honor, so I don't know if they still hold up to my liking).
 
I think season 1 finds it's footing on Haven, this is the episode where the acting, dialogue, pacing, script, directing and music all feel comfortably like TNG.

The first 4 episodes are way off, then the next few are half way there, then Haven onwards is there. It's just the stroylines that need improving from here on.
 
I'm a bit of a fan of The Last Outpost, regardless of its notable plot holes and the worst villain intro that I know of. :D Season 1 and 2 are a bit equal in their number of nausea-inducing eps IMO.
 
I have also recently been rewatching season 1, and at the same time am watching TOS S3 for the first time in my life. I noticed that the two Treks are very similar at this point. To me, it's clear. Roddenberry just continued making the same kind of show, as he made 20 years earlier on TOS. The corny dialogue, the OTT acting, the static camerashots, the "let's all look at the viewscreen" moments. It took Michael Piller and in a lesser extent, Maurice Hurley to make the show work.
 
Having recently started watching Season 1 again, I noticed that the first 4 episodes, Encounter at Farpoint, The Naked Now, Code of Honour and The Last Outpost, are on a very steep learning curve.

The acting in particular is extremely poor, with the actors often bursting out randomly in a fit of over-acting, especially Denise Crosby.

It's also the dialogue as well, nothing seems natural in these episodes.

I am aware that the entire first season is a learning curve, as it would be in any television series, but the rest of season 1 feels a lot more like TNG to me than these first 4 episodes. The acting and dialogue seem to be vastly improved by the 5th episode, Where No One Has Gone Before.

Anyone else notice this.


Agreed...but TOS is also like this...and DS9. Only Voyager and Enterprise seemed to have the "tone" down in the first season.

RAMA
 
boy i do like TNG, but Encounter at Farpoint I thought was stupid. It was a big launch ep, seperate the saucer, Riker proving himself. But really, a giant space bug/jellyfish. man, it wasn't that good. But, it got the series going.
 
I really love the whole series, but the first two seasons are easily the best for me - perhaps slightly more TOS-like in feel. I feel these seasons are woefully underrated and unfairly criticised.

I think that's why I dislike the first two seasons so much. TOS has some absolutely fantastic episodes, but at least 90% of it was damn near unwatchable. The TOS episodes I loved were the character driven episodes rather than the "strange new worlds" concept. Episodes like "Journey to Babel" and "City of the Edge of Forever" felt like something you would have seen during late TNG. On the other hand, TNG episodes that felt like TOS episodes, "101010110111" and "Where No One Has Gone Before" for example, nearly drove me to suicide rather than sit through them.

The first two (and especially the first) seasons of TNG focused heavily on the strange new worlds concept to the detriment of character development. The last fives seasons focused heavily on character development to the detriment of the sci-fi concept. It all depends on what you're looking for in Star Trek.
 
"101010110111" and "Where No One Has Gone Before" for example, nearly drove me to suicide rather than sit through them.

Personally I feel that these two episodes are two of the best episodes of season 1
 
"101010110111" and "Where No One Has Gone Before" for example, nearly drove me to suicide rather than sit through them.

Personally I feel that these two episodes are two of the best episodes of season 1

Yeah. Agreed.

I'm also in the camp that thinks season 1 and 2 kicks ass.

I'd rather watch a season 1 or 2 episode over most season 6 or 7 episodes any day.

But I love every season in the end.
 
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