She's Star Trek's version of Erica Kane from All My Children, married again, and again, and again, and again, and aga.... 
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I always thought that Janice-Lester-in-Kirk's-body was speaking in a panicky state, and addressed Angela as "Lieutenant Lisa" in a moment of unprofessional, unmilitary dumb-talk. Lester didn't talk like a real captain.
I never considered death of spouse(s), but in hindsight with the death of her finance in Balance of Terror, it makes sense. If she was married to Lt. Teller from Court Martial, then he had plenty of opportunities to die before Turnabout Intruder serving aboard one the following starships:It's now in my headcanon that Angela Martine/Teller/Lysa kept getting married and kept getting widowed between episodes.
- CONSTELLATION (The Doomsday Machine)
- INTREPID (The Immunity Syndrome: We know that both he and the Intrepid were at Starbase 11 for Court Martial)
- EXCALIBUR (The Ultimate Computer)
- POTEMKIN (The Ultimate Computer)
- LEXINGTON (The Ultimate Computer)
- EXETER (The Omega Glory)
- DEFIANT (The Tholian Web)
Wow! Good call. Space/being in Starfleet was dangerous. "Men no longer neeeeeeeeed dieeeeeee in spaaaaaaace," as the unfortunate architect of many of those deaths said . . .
It gets even more tragic than that. Angela was in an eight-way communal marriage with seven different Lt. Tellers (or Lt. Teller and six of his clones, in a Multiplicity sort of thing), and they ALL died on those ships, one on each ship.
...Man, that lady just can't catch a break.
Probably not, as Intrepid was implied to have an all-Vulcan crew.
Actually Commodore Stone in “Courtmartial” specifically refers to the Intrepid that its repairs be suspended for priority to be given to the Enterprise.
I suspect there were a few non-Vulcans (probably humans) on the ship.
- MCCOY: The Intrepid is manned by Vulcans, isn't it?
- SPOCK: Captain, the Intrepid. It just died. And the four hundred Vulcans aboard, all dead.
- SPOCK: Doctor, even I, a half-Vulcan, could hear the death scream of four hundred Vulcan minds crying out over the distance between us.
I grant that the arguments above are very weak, but I included the Intrepid as only a small possibility and thus the reason I put the Intrepid on the list of ships that Lt. Tellar could have died on. YMMV
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I don't think there are any references to "first Vulcan" in the episodes, but they do paint the picture that Vulcans are rare in Starfleet.
I suspect there were a few non-Vulcans (probably humans) on the ship.
So, there were 400 Vulcans but if the Intrepid was like the Enterprise, as were all other Starships on the series, then there could be 29 odd other crew, making room for a few humans. I also think there was a chance that its captain was also human based the fact that Spock seemed to be an oddity in Starfleet Command ranks during the TOS period. Based on Court Martial, I say the blue-shirted, human Captain Krasnovsky could have been the Intrepid's Captain.
- MCCOY: The Intrepid is manned by Vulcans, isn't it?
- SPOCK: Captain, the Intrepid. It just died. And the four hundred Vulcans aboard, all dead.
- SPOCK: Doctor, even I, a half-Vulcan, could hear the death scream of four hundred Vulcan minds crying out over the distance between us.
I grant that the arguments above are very weak, but I included the Intrepid as only a small possibility and thus the reason I put the Intrepid on the list of ships that Lt. Tellar could have died on. YMMV
It doesn't appear that dialogue from later in the episode would leave any room for non-Vulcans on the Intrepid:
SPOCK: Call it a deep understanding of the way things happen to Vulcans, but I know not a person, not even the computers aboard the Intrepid knew what was killing them or would have understood it had they known.
MCCOY: But four hundred Vulcans?
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SPOCK: The Vulcans saw it first and died.
MCCOY: Just because the Vulcans failed.
MCCOY: But four hundred Vulcans?
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SPOCK: The Vulcans saw it first and died.
MCCOY: Just because the Vulcans failed.
Spock was an oddity on the Enterprise but maybe that is because Vulcans preferred all-Vulcan ships?
I have often interpretated it to mean that the Intrepid was a Vulcan Science ship/associated with Starfleet, but independent to it. I took it to mean it was a Vulcan scientific expedition. Presumably, Vulcans still had their own ships that didn't necessarily be of Starfleet, just the Federation.
Regarding Court Martial, I take the non-in universe explanation that they just re-used (knowingly or not) the Intrepid for the name of a season two ship. But its fun, of course, to create personal narratives.
Regarding Court Martial, I take the non-in universe explanation that they just re-used (knowingly or not) the Intrepid for the name of a season two ship. But its fun, of course, to create personal narratives.
I don't know/remember when the belief that Spock was the "first Vulcan in Starfleet" started to appear, but it definitely was there later: it was one of the complaints people had about T'Pol when Enterprise first aired.
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I think it arose from the Mr. Spock biography in The Making of Star Trek. It was certainly a part of fandom by the 1970s.
MCCOY: Yeah. Hot as Vulcan. Now I understand what that phrase means.
Ever work in a data center where the AC is cranked to max? As in it's Texas in the summer and it's 100º outside but you have to bring a parka to work because of the AC is so cold?
That's what it probably feels like to Vulcans serving on a ship set to human standards.
I don’t recall ever reading that in Spock’s bio in TMoST.
Even DC Fontana disputes the whole idea in her novel Vulcan’s Glory.
Indeed if I recall the novel correctly Fontana has other Vulcans aboard the Enterprise when Spock is first assigned to the ship and establishes he is actually not the first Vulcan/Human hybrid.
In the Mirror Universe we see other Vulcans aboard the Enterprise. Is this a suggestion that Spock might not be the only Vulcan aboard the Prime Universe Enterprise in the TOS era even though we never saw them?
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Journey to Babel leaves me with a lot of questions:
CHAPEL: I've checked the blood bank. There isn't enough Vulcan blood and plasma to even begin such an operation of this type.
KIRK: There are other Vulcans aboard.
The Enterprise does have a blood bank with Vulcan blood in it, but not a lot. Is this just for Spock, or is it for other full Vulcans, too? Does Kirk's line only apply to visiting Vulcans for the Babel conference, or are there other Vulcans aboard in the crew? Can Spock (half human) even take full Vulcan blood; we know that Spock's blood is not compatible with full Vulcans without filtering out the human components?...KIRK: There are other Vulcans aboard.
The USS prefix is pretty strongly associated with Starfleet vessels.
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