Scotty in the Pipe
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^ Basically.
I guess I just always figured that the universe is dangerous enough WITHOUT a curious abundance of godlike beings and technobabble space phenomena.
I guess I just always figured that the universe is dangerous enough WITHOUT a curious abundance of godlike beings and technobabble space phenomena.
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I thought they used the comedy well don't you think ps I think this movie rocks and really respects TOS.
Scotty's from Scotland, which is part of Great Britain. ANYTHING from there needs to be able to dry out almost instantly...
I thought the scene was amusing. But I like Keenser, the Brewery and that the ship is 725 meters long.
718...
725 is a guesstimate from the second announcement by the company that's making the plastic model...
Scotty was just plain lucky that in this timeline warp drives can use water for coolant. In the 24th Century of the original timeline, warp coolant is this REALLY nasty stuff that DISINTEGRATES organic matter...
The thing that bugged me about that scene was how much it felt like a copy of Star Wars - either the voyage through the Naboo core ("There's always a bigger fish") or the arena fight, or Luke on Hoth, or... It just really wasn't necessary. And frankly, the odds of Kirk and Spock Prime finding each other in that frozen wilderness, and Spock just happening to be in the cave that Kirk runs into... Yeah, that whole sequence bugs me. Even just having them meet up at the outpost instead of the cave would have helped that in my book.
To me, it was a funny scene that showed Scotty as a risk taker similar to Kirk. That's the perfect Scotty. He's got a "well the plan shouldn't work, so let's giver a try anyway" kind of attitude about his job and life. And that any situation he finds himself in he handles with stride and humor... "can I get a towel?"
I thought the scene was amusing. But I like Keenser, the Brewery and that the ship is 725 meters long.
718...
725 is a guesstimate from the second announcement by the company that's making the plastic model...
Yeah, because those 7 meters really make a difference on a ship that's three times the size it should be.
Why, because only Star Wars is allowed to have scenes that involve exotic yet pernicious wild animals trying to eat main characters? Because Star Trek aliens have to be subtle/slow moving menaces like shapeshifting salt vampires, blood drinking cloud creatures, rock-eating pizza creatures, six-inch psycho-parrots or twenty-foot spearchuckers that never show up on screen?
Star Trek in general isn't necessary. We watch it because it's COOL, not because it serves any larger purpose. And I found this to be an incredibly cool scene that, ironically, answered every question I ever asked about "How can you be sure there isn't something really dangerous on this planet you just landed on?"
This sounds like the perfect signature line!
I think that is what I liked about the snow creatures scene. McCoy says it best, "Space is disease and danger, wrapped in silence and darkness." The scene where a crew member is blown out into silent death epitomizes this theme.
I thought the scene was amusing. But I like Keenser, the Brewery and that the ship is 725 meters long.
718...
725 is a guesstimate from the second announcement by the company that's making the plastic model...
Yeah, because those 7 meters really make a difference on a ship that's three times the size it should be.
It's only slightly annoying since the people who created the CGI model for the movie came out and TOLD us (down to the foot) how big they meant it to be...
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Willy Wonka.
I made this almost 3 years ago during a caption thread. Hmmm...
I thought the movie scene was pretty funny and did show a ramification of what they were doing.
Exactly. I loved that scene because it showed that the new Trek was not ashamed to throw in some gratuituous monster-on-monster action just for the hell of it. STAR TREK should never take itself so seriously that it forget to be fun.
Ditto for Scotty in the pipes.
"The film series began with Star Wars, released on May 25, 1977"
"The original Star Trek was an American television series, created by Gene Roddenberry, which debuted in 1966"
I don't think ice planets or getting eaten on foreign planets is the exclusive domain of star wars.
Actually its quite logical when you think about it.
Spock - Wants kirk away fast, cannot kill him - Star fleet outpost Delta Vega.
Nero - Wants Spock to see Vulcan be destroyed, Wants him to live - Star fleet outpost Delta Vega.
Add in some destiny (which is what the film is about) how could they not meet?
More on topic:
First time I saw the film I disliked the engineering section, but its grown on me. The only thing I don't like about the "Scotty in the pipes" sequence is that the commentary made me aware of a cut
How far away were they from the outpost, about 10 KM or something?
So a circle with a radius of 10KM would have an area of about 314KM² or so.
How likely is it that two people-sized people would happen to find each other in a icy wasteland of 314KM² just by chance?
So a circle with a radius of 10KM would have an area of about 314KM² or so.
How likely is it that two people-sized people would happen to find each other in a icy wasteland of 314KM² just by chance?
Would like to point out that this is just a random guess, for all we know much of that area is impassible or inhospitable, one could easily lower that number.
Even assuming such a large number, add in some destiny and the fact that Spock found Kirk I reckon pretty high.
Just A Possible Scenario:
There is a large area of impassible land(mountain, canyon etc) reducing total wasteland to 100 km^2. In this area there is only one cave network that is accessible to the surface.
Chance of finding each other very high.
Just A Possible Scenario 2:
Spock takes shelter in large cave network, detects intelligent life in distress(telepathic or audible), makes way and arrives in time to save kirk.
Just A Possible Scenario 3:
Destiny.
Yes, they are, because pop culture identifies ice planets with Star Wars. San Francisco in the new Star Trek looks like Coruscant. That original Star Trek aired in 1969 and original Star Wars in 1977 makes no difference to that.
So "the rule" is that once one movie becomes famous for doing something well, that same concept is off-limits to the rest of Hollywood?
Have you been to the movie theater lately...say in the past 30 years? They've been ripping off ENTIRE FILMS from each other and scraping the bottom of the nostalgia barrel so hard they're down to examining nostalgia atoms with an electron microscope.
If you think Hollywood has any kind of nobility, restraint or respect for or within itself then you must also still think that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real.
