Scotty in the Pipe
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Perfect!
I've had no problem with the humor since the very first time I saw it. Both the 'hands' scene and the 'Scotty/tube' scene were well done.
Don't get me wrong, I loved him banging on the side of the tank, I just did not need him being sucked toward the cuisinart thing. It seemed unlikely they would kill off Scotty so soon after introducing him.
exactly!
I've had no problem with the humor since the very first time I saw it. Both the 'hands' scene and the 'Scotty/tube' scene were well done.
Don't get me wrong, I loved him banging on the side of the tank, I just did not need him being sucked toward the cuisinart thing. It seemed unlikely they would kill off Scotty so soon after introducing him.
I never had the impression that Scotty would get 'Slap Chopped'. But as a plot point, what better way to gain loyalty than to save a life. Kirk saved Sulu by jumping off of the platform over Vulcan, Scotty by getting him out of the tube, Spock and Pike by ordering transport, and most important, the entire ship before dropping from warp by getting Pike to raise shields and go to red alert...all just in time. But the bottom line is, the comedy worked.
I thought it was reasonably funny. It's different for a Trek movie, and I can handle that.
Well said.I thought the scene was alright, but agree that the garbage disposal blades were right out of Galaxy Quest. I guess it was a little more plausible, because usually you wouldn't have people in those pipes, but it still had a certain "why is this even HERE?" feel. Really, I think if they needed to cut a scene, it would have to be the Monster Chase scene on the ice planet. That's the roll-my-eyese scene that takes me out of the movie more and more each time I see it.
I agree, it was fuuny in some parts. I like the part where Kirk ask Scotty "Are you alright" and Scotty's reponse is "My head is buzzing and I'm soaked other than that I'm fine" that was real funny!
I agree, it was fuuny in some parts. I like the part where Kirk ask Scotty "Are you alright" and Scotty's reponse is "My head is buzzing and I'm soaked other than that I'm fine" that was real funny!
That's a comedy standard. Remember Wyatt's insane driving in "Weird Science"?
Wyatt: "Are you alright, Gary?"
Gary: "Well my nuts are halfway up my ass but aside from that I'm perfect!"
The scene was awesome.
It was a good decision not to delete it from the script!
It was a good decision not to delete it from the script!
I thought the scene was amusing. But I like Keenser, the Brewery and that the ship is 725 meters long.
OK, I laughed at that imagery of them dropping through the air after the beam holding a little sign reading uh oh. Eh, while I didn't find the scene funny, I didn't get all riled up about it. I sat, experienced it and then watched it go by. What struck me though, was how did Scotty hold his breath that long? Was he lucky enough to have taken in a breath before they materialized? Can your scattered molecules register that you took a breath? And if so, would it have been deep enough that he could have lasted for nearly a minute considering the panic, the elevation in heart rate and consumption of oxygen, the little bit of breath he let out when he called for help? Just a thought that went through my mind when I watched the scene.
^ Yeah, while watching the movie i commented on how long he could hold his breath. But then again, i can't do it any longer than a few seconds, so anything more than that seems like an eternity to me.
If there is not a soul in sight why do you assume its a busy area?
I was recently thinking the same thing re the mutual saves. When I first saw the film, I was not so keen on the scene, but, in my by-now multiple viewing at home, just yesterday, I thought, yeah, it works okay. It was still a serious situation, even if it was in a way meant to have a humorous note to it.
I've had no problem with the humor since the very first time I saw it. Both the 'hands' scene and the 'Scotty/tube' scene were well done.
Don't get me wrong, I loved him banging on the side of the tank, I just did not need him being sucked toward the cuisinart thing. It seemed unlikely they would kill off Scotty so soon after introducing him.
I never had the impression that Scotty would get 'Slap Chopped'. But as a plot point, what better way to gain loyalty than to save a life. Kirk saved Sulu by jumping off of the platform over Vulcan, Scotty by getting him out of the tube, Spock and Pike by ordering transport, and most important, the entire ship before dropping from warp by getting Pike to raise shields and go to red alert...all just in time. But the bottom line is, the comedy worked.
I agree, it was fuuny in some parts. I like the part where Kirk ask Scotty "Are you alright" and Scotty's reponse is "My head is buzzing and I'm soaked other than that I'm fine" that was real funny!
I thought this scene was so funny. Scotty's response to Kirk's question made me laugh at the end of a particuarly tense scene. I was praying that Kirk found a way to get Scotty out of there. It was more realistic for the Transwarp Beaming to go wrong rather than be flawless.
I don't think dropping Kirk and Scotty a few feet off the deck wouldn't have been as funny. IMHO that would have been far more slapstick.
As far as the complaints about the "brewery" engineering section, I think the area that Kirk and Scotty beamed into was for wastewater reclaimation and not main engineering. Unless technology has advanced far enough in the 23rd century to do away with toilets and sinks (which I highly doubt), water and waste still need to be recycled.
When I first saw the scene in the theater I thought it was a bit much... until Kirk releases the valve and the computer talks. It was Majel! I forgot about rolling my eyes and they got a little misty instead. Now that I own it, I don't really watch for the comedy. I watch it so I can hear Majel as the computer one last time.
I actually LOVED that scene. I remember thinking since I was about ten years old that 'seek out new life and new civilizations" has a certain inherent yet (in Trek) unrecognized risk of BEING EATEN.
I mean, a species of small fur-covered rodents beaming down to the Kalahari desert would probably have one of those 'oh shit' moments when their tricorders suddenly detect a large carnivorous bird circling overhead. Now a species of ape-descended star voyagers from the planet Earth can't guarantee they won't look awfully tasty to the locals on some backwater planet they happen to beam down to, now can they? I mean, Mugatus may taste like chicken, but what do you taste like to the Mugatu?
