Scott Confirmed for Alien Prequel

[john titor]

This is one film I don't care about. Problem being the mystery element of the alien ship is now going to be ruined. Instead of the millions of theories fans can create about it, its going to be de-mystified. Plus yes, hollywood is creatively bankrupt. Pathetic really.

So I take it you didn't like TREK XI? Just wondering. Because, to me, I don't care what they write; as long as they write it good. And since Scott was the one who got it going, I will give him a broad brush on this one. But the trend to slam hollywood for making remakes, or sequels, slaps of peer driven dribble and holds as much water as a noddle strainer.

Rob

Compare and contrast the number of iconic films from the present with say the 70s and 80s. You can easily dismiss the view as peer driven dribble but you should be open minded about its merits too.

Scott got it going, yeah I know, but he could make a real turd.

 

[Aragorn]

All's good as long as he can ignore the two AVP movies.

Has he ever done a sequel before?

He directed a sequel to someone else's movie -- Hannibal.

 

[RobertScorpio]

This is one film I don't care about. Problem being the mystery element of the alien ship is now going to be ruined. Instead of the millions of theories fans can create about it, its going to be de-mystified. Plus yes, hollywood is creatively bankrupt. Pathetic really.

So I take it you didn't like TREK XI? Just wondering. Because, to me, I don't care what they write; as long as they write it good. And since Scott was the one who got it going, I will give him a broad brush on this one. But the trend to slam hollywood for making remakes, or sequels, slaps of peer driven dribble and holds as much water as a noddle strainer.

Rob

Compare and contrast the number of iconic films from the present with say the 70s and 80s. You can easily dismiss the view as peer driven dribble but you should be open minded about its merits too.

Scott got it going, yeah I know, but he could make a real turd.

Oh, it has merits. But I remember my own Grandfather lamenting about how terrible the modern films (70s and 80s at the time) were no where as good as Citizen Kane and Casablanca and Gone with the Wind and The Sound of Music and Psyco and Rearview Window and....i could go on.

I am sure the fans of LOTR or Forest Gump or Pulp Fiction or Harry Potter or American Beauty or Seven or other modern films may argue your point.

Rob

 

[john titor]

This is the fun thing, I'm in my 20s, and Pulp Fiction is a classic. I just see a decline in quality, its like a wave, has peaks and troughs. The view that quality is always unchanging is false imo. I was forced to go to HP and I didn't like it, I thought it was naff. Seven is another 90s film. Forest Gump was ok but sentimental drivel at the same time. LOTR was overlong turgid crap. I saw all three of them and thought wow, these films suck and they're based on books 60 years old at this stage. American Beauty is an easy film to make, just pick some suitably angsty middle class subject matter, make "profound" statements about society/life, throw in some surrealism and you've got an oscar winning movie already.

 

[RobertScorpio]

This is the fun thing, I'm in my 20s, and Pulp Fiction is a classic. I just see a decline in quality, its like a wave, has peaks and troughs. The view that quality is always unchanging is false imo. I was forced to go to HP and I didn't like it, I thought it was naff. Seven is another 90s film. Forest Gump was ok but sentimental drivel at the same time. LOTR was overlong turgid crap. I saw all three of them and thought wow, these films suck and they're based on books 60 years old at this stage. American Beauty is an easy film to make, just pick some suitably angsty middle class subject matter, make "profound" statements about society/life, throw in some surrealism and you've got an oscar winning movie already.

But these are all your opinions. I actually liked Forest Gump, and I think its a great movie. Then again, that is my opinion. I would argue that movies became commercialized in the 70s/80s. I would argue that it was 70s/80s that started this cookie cutter movie system we see now. IMO the 40-50-60s were movies at their best, in terms of quality writing and acting.

Rob

 

[davejames]

This is one film I don't care about. Problem being the mystery element of the alien ship is now going to be ruined. Instead of the millions of theories fans can create about it, its going to be de-mystified. Plus yes, hollywood is creatively bankrupt. Pathetic really.

That is definitely a concern, but I think the first movie is still so eerie and creepy on it's own that no amount of explanation is going to change that. I mean, we had a good idea what the marines were walking into in Aliens, but that still didn't keep it from being suspenseful as all hell.

For me the bigger problem are the aliens themselves. We know their life cycle, we know what every square inch of them looks like, and we know how they can be killed. I certainly don't want Scott to invent some NEW kind of alien (like the ridiculous Newborn or Predalien), but he's definitely going to have to find some way to shake things up and make them interesting and scary again.

Or maybe just by returning them to the shadows and making the world AROUND them more gritty and believable (along with more well-written characters), that would be enough....

 

[QuasarVM]

For me the bigger problem are the aliens themselves. We know their life cycle, we know what every square inch of them looks like, and we know how they can be killed. I certainly don't want Scott to invent some NEW kind of alien (like the ridiculous Newborn or Predalien), but he's definitely going to have to find some way to shake things up and make them interesting and scary again.

We know all those things about humans too -- but we keep making films with them.

I agree there shouldn't be any *new* aliens in the prequel. I hated the Newborn and the PredAlien -- but we have the Space Jockeys who have never been seen alive and kicking in an ALIEN film.

I think this movie has great potential.

If anyone can pull it off it's Ridley Scott.

 

[melancholymecha]

Id like more history about their androids. Was Ash the first one made? Or where they already being used for other purposes by the military?

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Id like more history about their androids. Was Ash the first one made? Or where they already being used for other purposes by the military?

The crew of the Nostromo seemed to be familiar with androids when they realized than Ash was one of them.

 

[Thrall]

It's kind of like Mick Jagger fronting a Rolling Stones cover band, isn't it?

 

[LitmusDragon]

I am cautiously optimistic.

 

[payndz201]

By strange coincidence, I finally saw AVP: Requiem tonight.

Holy shit. If Scott really is making an Alien prequel, it will be the biggest movie-to-movie quality jump in franchise history. Even if Ridley has a brain fart and allows the script to be generic fanboy shit (highly unlikely), at the very least it will be a million times better to look at.

And I'm not exaggerating there. AVP:R is probably the least visually appealing movie I've ever seen. And I've seen Manos: The Hands Of Fate. Everything's so dark and the contrast has been whacked up so high that even the daylight scenes look like they've been filmed in somebody's armpit. Once night falls... Jesus, I see more distinct shapes on the inside of my eyelids. I literally could not tell what was happening for half the movie. It wasn't because the editing was confusing or the camera was shaking too much, it was because I couldn't even see the editing or the camera movement. 90% of the shots were "something dark glistening in blackness".

 

[davejames]

The only problem is, if Scott somehow DOES make another great Alien movie and rejuvenate the franchise... it's just going to inspire the studio to make MORE crappy sequels later on.

In the end, I almost wonder if it's even worth it...

 

[Temis the Vorta]

This is one film I don't care about. Problem being the mystery element of the alien ship is now going to be ruined. Instead of the millions of theories fans can create about it, its going to be de-mystified. Plus yes, hollywood is creatively bankrupt. Pathetic really.

Unless the Space Jockey and his/her/its species is a truly alien type of alien - not a human with a full body costume or prosthetics - then we could have a very interesting movie from a non-human perspective. Not just a human in other guise, which is the usual routine.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

Scott being attached has added some legitimacy to this project. I'm now interested in it, instead of the complete apathy I felt before.

 

[QuasarVM]

By strange coincidence, I finally saw AVP: Requiem tonight.

Holy shit. If Scott really is making an Alien prequel, it will be the biggest movie-to-movie quality jump in franchise history. Even if Ridley has a brain fart and allows the script to be generic fanboy shit (highly unlikely), at the very least it will be a million times better to look at.

And I'm not exaggerating there. AVP:R is probably the least visually appealing movie I've ever seen. And I've seen Manos: The Hands Of Fate. Everything's so dark and the contrast has been whacked up so high that even the daylight scenes look like they've been filmed in somebody's armpit. Once night falls... Jesus, I see more distinct shapes on the inside of my eyelids. I literally could not tell what was happening for half the movie. It wasn't because the editing was confusing or the camera was shaking too much, it was because I couldn't even see the editing or the camera movement. 90% of the shots were "something dark glistening in blackness".

AVP:R was HORRIBLE!!!

What that movie did to pregnant women and babies was disgusting with a capital D!

I left the theater feeling dirty and like I needed a bath after that disgusting and vile film!

 

[Aragorn]

Alien Origins: Alien

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Interesting news. I'm not the biggest Alien fan out there (although I should rewatch the first two at some point), but I'm a huge Scott fan so I'm looking forward to this.

 

[bigdaddy]

Boo to prequels! Boo!!!

 

[miraclefan]

The only problem is, if Scott somehow DOES make another great Alien movie and rejuvenate the franchise... it's just going to inspire the studio to make MORE crappy sequels later on.

In the end, I almost wonder if it's even worth it...

I SMELL REMAKE!!!!!!! (Of A L I E N & ALIENS)