Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. New Season
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A pretty important arc episode, it seems. Last season we learned that the Scooby Gang wasn't the first Mystery, Incorporated; now we learn that they're part of a cyclic tradition going back centuries, a whole legacy of two-man, two-woman, one-animal mystery-solving teams. I wonder what's behind it all. It'll probably turn out to be connected to the alchemist and the planispheric disk.
And this episode definitely included something for the adult viewers, albeit mostly kept implicit. Daphne getting a shower scene and being attacked by a tentacle monster while clad only in a bathrobe? There's a fetish I never expected to see even hinted at in Scooby-Doo.
I wonder why the "terrorwood" made Shaggy hallucinate being Fred rather than seeing a monster. Perhaps because terror is his default state to begin with, so the smoke intensified his terror so much that his only refuge was to break from reality and imagine himself as the bravest, strongest person he knows. Although that doesn't explain why Daphne hallucinated Fred too.
Speaking of arc significance, Shaggy falling for Daphne is bound to be a complication for the next few episodes.
And this episode definitely included something for the adult viewers, albeit mostly kept implicit. Daphne getting a shower scene and being attacked by a tentacle monster while clad only in a bathrobe? There's a fetish I never expected to see even hinted at in Scooby-Doo.
I wonder why the "terrorwood" made Shaggy hallucinate being Fred rather than seeing a monster. Perhaps because terror is his default state to begin with, so the smoke intensified his terror so much that his only refuge was to break from reality and imagine himself as the bravest, strongest person he knows. Although that doesn't explain why Daphne hallucinated Fred too.
Speaking of arc significance, Shaggy falling for Daphne is bound to be a complication for the next few episodes.
Probably for reasons along the lines of why Shaggy hallucinated being Freddy - Freddy is the bravest guy Daphne knows and she's had feelings for him for a while and he's finally reciprocating (albeit in a poor way), so she broke from reality when being attacked by multiple Medusa lamias and got her fantasy.
Shaggy and Scooby did hallucinate a monster; in fact, they were the first. Velma also hallucinated the train, so all the hallucinations weren't scary.
This was pretty good. The mansion seemed to be an homage to the Overlook, but I love the idea of a massive library located in some remote spot. The ancient tradition of mystery-solving foursomes with mascots is pretty meta. It kind of reminds me of what JMS was doing with Spider-Man a few years back.
And the shower scene was pretty good for a cartoon.
This was pretty good. The mansion seemed to be an homage to the Overlook, but I love the idea of a massive library located in some remote spot. The ancient tradition of mystery-solving foursomes with mascots is pretty meta. It kind of reminds me of what JMS was doing with Spider-Man a few years back.
And the shower scene was pretty good for a cartoon.
There was also a fair amount of homage to The Shining -- a remote mansion in the hills during winter, with a caretaker who resembled Scatman Crothers.
Did anyone catch the Hellraiser reference a few episodes ago?
Yeah, with the puzzle box and the "Oh, such sights" guy at the door? I've actually never seen those movies, but I figured that was a movie reference and I looked it up. I think I actually guessed that's what it was a reference to; somehow I must've unconsciously osmosed enough information about that franchise to know it involved a puzzle box somehow.
Yeah, even if you've never seen the movies, Hellraiser's puzzle box and Pinface (or whatever his name is) is referenced in various shows and what not. Hell, even the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy had a parody of it (using a Rubik's cube of all things).
Shaggy and Scooby did hallucinate a monster; in fact, they were the first. Velma also hallucinated the train, so all the hallucinations weren't scary.
This was pretty good. The mansion seemed to be an homage to the Overlook, but I love the idea of a massive library located in some remote spot. The ancient tradition of mystery-solving foursomes with mascots is pretty meta. It kind of reminds me of what JMS was doing with Spider-Man a few years back.
And the shower scene was pretty good for a cartoon.
Yeah, riffing from The Shining seemed to make for a pretty inspired episode. Personally, I thought it was one of the spookier episodes, atmospheric at least anyway.
They seem to be travelling to more varied locales lately more like the old show. I liked Fred and Scooby interacting even if probably only done to force the scene with Shaggy and Daphne.
Yeah, it would be nice if they get out of Crystal Cove increasingly often.
Must remember to tape today's episode....
Must remember to tape today's episode....
Yeah, it's nice that this show explores Scooby's interactions with more characters than just Shaggy. Usually Shaggy and Scooby are pretty much treated as a single character, but this show is developing them more as individuals.
Plus with Fred and Scooby you've got Frank Welker doing a scene with himself, which has hardly been unusual over the course of his career (for instance, Ray/Slimer scenes in The Real Ghostbusters), but doesn't seem to happen as often lately. (Correcting what I said in post #18, Welker did indeed do guest voices in a number of Filmation's Lone Ranger episodes, and there are plenty of cases where there are two or three different Welker characters conversing with each other in the same scene.) It's surprising to me that Welker rarely seems to play any of the monsters on this show; he used to do all sorts of monster voices on Scooby shows and Ghostbusters. Maybe at his age he's trying to preserve his voice by doing fewer roles -- although I imagine doing the gruff Scooby voice could be a little hard on the larynx. Then again, I do recall hearing Welker do a scary monster voice in something I watched quite recently, and I can't think what it could be other than Mystery, Inc.
I think Welker might be avoiding that extreme "Dr. Claw" type voice he used to do a lot. That's probably a bit hard on the vocals.
But that's just about exactly the voice I mentioned hearing recently. I can't remember what it was, but he was yelling a word beginning with "R" in such a rough, growly tone that at first I thought it was meant to be an animal roar.
"Nazi" robots, underwater sub action and lairs, epic adventure. Mystery Inc. has really increased scope in the last few episodes. Personally I'm digging it, even if it's tipping into Venture Brothers territory. I'd love to see an episode with the 1800s Benevolent Lodge of Mystery. Never noticed Udo Kier voices Pericles which is of course awesome.
This was a weird one, and also a very dark one. On-camera skeletons and corpses, a character apparently dying... I'm surprised this got past the censors.
And Pericles met the countess in the 1930s? How long do parrots live, anyway?
Plus it was weird introducing a seal named Scooby. That didn't really go anywhere or serve much purpose. Was it some sort of pun on SCUBA?
And Pericles met the countess in the 1930s? How long do parrots live, anyway?
Plus it was weird introducing a seal named Scooby. That didn't really go anywhere or serve much purpose. Was it some sort of pun on SCUBA?
I think parrots are a long-lived species, probably the most realistic thing in the episode LOL.
Yes, apparently some species of parrot have had recorded lifespans in the 70s or over 100, though that's not true of all of them.
http://sonic.net/~petdoc/lifespan.htm
http://sonic.net/~petdoc/lifespan.htm
"WWII-era robots." "The Simon & Garfunkel of marine biology." Good stuff.
Actually, the robots were older than that and so was the underwater lair. And Velma is already thinking along the lines of mystery-solving foursomes with mascots being part of a larger pattern. This is getting pretty interesting. It's almost got a Planetary vibe to it.
Regarding the kids with the seal named Scooby, I was wondering they are the nascent form of the next generation mystery-solving group. I was expecting a little foreshadowing at the end with a couple of young girls showing up, but it didn't happen.
Too bad about Cassidy. I hope she survived.
Actually, the robots were older than that and so was the underwater lair. And Velma is already thinking along the lines of mystery-solving foursomes with mascots being part of a larger pattern. This is getting pretty interesting. It's almost got a Planetary vibe to it.
Regarding the kids with the seal named Scooby, I was wondering they are the nascent form of the next generation mystery-solving group. I was expecting a little foreshadowing at the end with a couple of young girls showing up, but it didn't happen.
Too bad about Cassidy. I hope she survived.
Check this out, it was actually a crossover with an old Hanna Barbera series called Moby Dick that actually had a Tom and Tub and a seal named Scooby(!). Though the original series had an actual whale instead of a whale-like sub.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick_and_Mighty_Mightor
Can't find it in English unfortunately.
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I actually wondered briefly if it might be something like that. It was still pretty weird to anyone who didn't remember that old show (i.e. virtually everyone).
As for today's episode, it went in some pretty unusual directions too. Even the normal mystery-solving was derailed by the bomb scare. It's getting to the point that the overarching story arc is starting to clash with the episodic mysteries, and it's feeling a bit awkward. We've had at least two episodes this season where the culprits were known characters working for the Pericles/Mr. E conspiracy, and now this one where the culprit was working against Mr. E's company and Mr. E and Pericles were responsible for the "mysterious" bomb. Plus, whereas last season it took us a whole year to discover Mayor Jones's nefarious agenda, this time around there's very little mystery behind Brad and Judy's ulterior motives. So I'm starting to feel that they're losing sight of the mystery focus of the show as they get more and more caught up in the serial arc.
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