New episodes of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated are coming to Cartoon Network(US). Starting July 30th, there will be new episodes airing at 2PM(???) EST everyweekday. I know some of you watch so set your recording devices accordingly.
Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. New Season
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Standard procedue would require me to bitch that I already started a topic about SDMI but CN is so shit at scheduling it fell to the depths of the forum in no time.
I apologize about that, I searched before posting but somehow missed it (hell, I had even posted in it). Probably should've searched more than just the word "Scooby".
Well, it's good news, in any case. I hope they re-run the season opener, because I still haven't seen it.
Yes they are and looking more into it, it appears they're only airing episodes next week so be sure to catch 'em.
Thanks for the heads up. I will try to do that, although I have a feeling this week will be bad for keeping up with TV.
Wow, the first few episodes have been pretty intense stuff. This is a good show, though it's bearing increasingly little resemblance to Scooby-Doo -- which is what I like about it, though people who actually liked the original show might find it a little alienating. But I'm really liking the character work and the elaborate plotting, and the climax of today's "The Night the Clown Cried II: Tears of Doom!" was really epic action-movie stuff. It's really interesting where they're taking the characters. Frank Welker has been playing Fred Jones on and off for literally his entire career as a voice actor (Fred was his first voice role and the only Scooby-Doo character still being played by the original performer), but I'm sure he's never before had the opportunity to stretch his acting skills this far (or really much at all) in the role.
It's also interesting what they've been doing with the Marcie character (I do not want to call her "Hot Dog Water"). The animation could not be making it more blatant that she has romantic feelings for Velma -- the way she's constantly looking at her, sticking close to her, sliding up against her on the couch, etc. I expect they'll be required to keep it subtextual, but wouldn't it be neat if we'd progressed enough as a society that a cartoon intended for kids were allowed to acknowledge openly that a girl was in love with another girl? After all, Archie Comics has broken that taboo with their openly gay Kevin Keller character, who's been very popular with readers. It's probably different for TV, I guess, since it's higher-profile and more likely to invite controversy that would scare off the network. But it's impressive that they're even able to include the subtext to the degree they have.
It's also interesting what they've been doing with the Marcie character (I do not want to call her "Hot Dog Water"). The animation could not be making it more blatant that she has romantic feelings for Velma -- the way she's constantly looking at her, sticking close to her, sliding up against her on the couch, etc. I expect they'll be required to keep it subtextual, but wouldn't it be neat if we'd progressed enough as a society that a cartoon intended for kids were allowed to acknowledge openly that a girl was in love with another girl? After all, Archie Comics has broken that taboo with their openly gay Kevin Keller character, who's been very popular with readers. It's probably different for TV, I guess, since it's higher-profile and more likely to invite controversy that would scare off the network. But it's impressive that they're even able to include the subtext to the degree they have.
When I first saw this thread last week I thought I'd check out an episode or two as I've always been a 'Scooby' fan since childhood. After a few minutes of the first episode I caught I was complimenting the guy voicing Fred, saying that his impersonation of the original Fred was just absolutely uncanny. After a quick look on IMDB I was amazed to find out that it was still Frank Welker. I'll be honest, I thought he'd died! Fantastic that he's still an integral part of the franchise.
I'm guessing that Frank and Casey Kasem had a wager over who could last the longest in their respective roles!
I'm guessing that Frank and Casey Kasem had a wager over who could last the longest in their respective roles!
^Well, Casey Kasem was retired from playing Shaggy from about 1994-2001 (except for one Johnny Bravo episode), with Scott Innes (and in one case Billy West) taking over the role. I gather it happened because Kasem became a vegetarian and refused to play the role unless Shaggy became one too. Once Kasem returned to the role, Shaggy and Scooby both became vegetarians until Kasem retired from the role, and now in Mystery Inc. they're meat-eaters again (and Shaggy has even been shown to be repulsed by vegetarian meat substitutes). Kasem is still a recurring cast member in Mystery, Inc., though, playing Shaggy's father.
As for Fred, Carl Stevens played his preteen self in the 1988-91 series A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, but Welker is the only person who's ever played the adolescent Fred in animation -- unless you count sketches from Robot Chicken (Freddie Prinze, Jr.) and MAD (Kevin Shinick). Not only that, but Welker has been playing Scooby himself since 2003 (replacing Scott Innes, whose Scooby voice was pretty bad). Don Messick, who originated the role, retired from it in 1994 and died three years later.
As for Fred, Carl Stevens played his preteen self in the 1988-91 series A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, but Welker is the only person who's ever played the adolescent Fred in animation -- unless you count sketches from Robot Chicken (Freddie Prinze, Jr.) and MAD (Kevin Shinick). Not only that, but Welker has been playing Scooby himself since 2003 (replacing Scott Innes, whose Scooby voice was pretty bad). Don Messick, who originated the role, retired from it in 1994 and died three years later.
and i thought i was reading too much into all that. glad i'm not the only one who had the same thoughts.
Don't get your hopes up. That's all I can say.
This is the first Scooby Doo series that I've actually liked. I didn't hate the others, mind you, but they were just kinda "there," and there really wasn't anything about them that grabbed my attention.
About the whole subtext thing with Velma and Hot Dog, Cartoon Network tends to be more lenient with that kind of thing than say Disney XD, Nicktoons, or the Hub. In that sense, CN is a bit more edgier than those other networks at times (case in point: the various Total Drama shows).
About the whole subtext thing with Velma and Hot Dog, Cartoon Network tends to be more lenient with that kind of thing than say Disney XD, Nicktoons, or the Hub. In that sense, CN is a bit more edgier than those other networks at times (case in point: the various Total Drama shows).
Oh, I wasn't doubting the subtext. Just don't get attached to it.
One shouldn't get attached to anything, really, but one can still enjoy moments in the show regardless.
Apparently there's a longstanding belief in fandom that Velma may have been a lesbian, and the first live-action Scooby-Doo movie filmed some material suggesting that Velma had a thing for Daphne, but it was cut from the final film. So I guess the producers of SDMI are riffing on that.
Actually, IIRC those scenes never got past the script stage. TBH, SDMI tipped their hand to that card when they cast Cardellini (who's a great actress, but I can put 2+2 together.)
What a bizarre situation. Perhaps they should have just stuck with 'Scooby snacks' - surely he didn't have a problem with dog biscuits!
Yes, I remember reading that Welker now played Scooby as well. And he also voiced Megatron of course, in Transformers. A shame that he wasn't given the role in the live action movies, as Peter Cullen was with Optimus Prime. I also thought I'd read that it was Frank Welker who voiced Skeletor in Masters of the Universe, but of course that was actually Alan Oppenheimer who also played the USS Odyssey's Captain Keogh in DS9's season 2 finale The Jem'Hadar.
Oh, I hadn't realized she was the one playing Marcie.
What a bizarre situation. Perhaps they should have just stuck with 'Scooby snacks' - surely he didn't have a problem with dog biscuits!
Umm, why would Shaggy subsist entirely on dog biscuits?
And probably thousands of other characters -- just off the top of my head, there's Ray and Slimer and countless ghosts and monsters from The Real Ghostbusters, Dr. Klaw from Inspector Gadget, Darkseid and Kalibak in the Super Powers Team seasons of Superfriends, Thaddeus Plotz, Ralph, and the announcer in Animaniacs, both the title characters in Filmation's version of Heckle and Jeckle, and many more. I think he's the current voice of Barney Rubble too.
No, Welker did surprisingly little work for Filmation, considering he was pretty much ubiquitous everywhere else. He did a few of their comedy shows in the late '70s/early '80s, including their versions of Tom and Jerry, Mighty Mouse, and the aforementioned Heckle and Jeckle, and I think he was in Blackstar, but not much else. Wikipedia claims he was an uncredited cast member in Filmation's Lone Ranger, but I just got a DVD of that and I haven't heard a peep from him; other than the two leads (William Conrad and Ivan Naranjo), all the male voices I've heard so far have been done by Lou Scheimer.
Oppenheimer, by contrast, was a Filmation stalwart for a few years. He played the main villains in a number of their later shows, including Flash Gordon, Blackstar, He-Man, and Filmation's Ghostbusters. (In fact, his Ming the Merciless and Skeletor used exactly the same voice.) I'm surprised that anyone could think Welker played Skeletor; he and Oppenheimer sound nothing alike.
I missed today's episode as my DVR didn't record for some reason. Have to see if it pops up on demand or whatever.
I'm still not totally sold on this series, I think there's a better theoretical one that has some more middle ground with the more traditional one. I'd like to see a little more meat to the mysteries, more travel but I like the updated style and trying to do more with the characters. Plus, it seems like the namesake character is unwanted baggage.
I'm still not totally sold on this series, I think there's a better theoretical one that has some more middle ground with the more traditional one. I'd like to see a little more meat to the mysteries, more travel but I like the updated style and trying to do more with the characters. Plus, it seems like the namesake character is unwanted baggage.
Actually I kind of like what they're doing with Scooby lately. It seems he's becoming less just a duplicate Shaggy with a tail and developing some courage and initiative. He was pretty driven to escape and bring the gang back together at the end of last season and the start of this one, and when the clown was after Fred in the premiere, Scooby was raring to go to his aid and didn't seem to approve of Shaggy's cowardice. Although since then he's been more his usual self.
It still sounds weird to me, though, to hear Scooby-Doo actually using the correct consonants all the time instead of replacing them with Rs. It certainly makes him more comprehensible, but it clashes with a lifetime of expectations.
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