Sci Fantasy or do you want Sci Fi?

[WB2]

So I'm as excited as the next guy and I'm sure I'll just kick myself and be disappointed but do you people still want basically what is sci fantasy, ie exciting adventures often with some moral baked in there taking place not on earth or are we ready for something actually Sci Fi this time? Finding huge sattelite civilizations, ancient aliens who's been here since the dawn of time, mysterious objects or aliens that might have evolved humans, or are we happy with ridged forehead of the week who has problems with another ridged alien forehead. Do you prefer Arthur C Clark Trek or the same old?

I know I'm in the minority but i actually adored TMP for how close it was to actual Sci Fi and I hope Discovery can take a chance and at least spend a double parter on something much more Sci Fi then your average Trek.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Variety is the spice of life. Arthur C Clarke is my favorite writer, but I want Star Trek to be Star Trek. A Hard SF Space Opera would be great, but it should be a new concept rather than a re-imagining of Trek (coincidentally, my sound-bite description of my own Space Opera has always been "Arthur C Clarke meets Star Trek).

 

[2takesfrakes]

I would prefer Sci-Fantasy, for this series.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Star Trek is a comic book fantasy world that occasionally uses some science fiction concepts. It'll never be true, hard science fiction without a complete reboot and excising of all its goofy aspects.

I love Trek for what it is, and I'd like it to continue being it's comic booky space adventure world, with hostile giant space amoebas and impossible technologies.

 

[Stewey]

I prefer Sci-fi over fantasy in answer to the question specifically although there is room for both, but I also want political intrigue as an element in the backdrop, and strong realistic character development as well.

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I know I'm in the minority but i actually adored TMP for how close it was to actual Sci Fi and I hope Discovery can take a chance and at least spend a double parter on something much more Sci Fi then your average Trek.

I am in complete agreement, TMP is the closest to pure Trek than most offerings within the franchise. A seriously underrated film in my view.

 

[CJCade]

I prefer my Trek as it always had been. I agree with the comment that it will never be a vehicle for hard sci fi without a total reboot and then it would no longer be Star Trek.

Completely unrelated, but thinking about TMP, I had a thought... If Hollywood back then (when TMP was released) were like it has been over the last ten years or so, we may never had TWoK because they would have probably opted to do a reboot instead of a sequel.

 

[BillJ]

I'm okay with Star Trek being "Star Trek", warts and all.

 

[RAMA]

The Expanse satisfies my need for something closer to being grounded and still space opera.

Discovery should be fantastical space adventure.

Incidentally, Star Trek has used all those plot suggestions you made and more, however, those things are not really science-based, they are highly speculative and are used more for story potential than anything "grounded" in real science. Chariots of the Gods for example has been dis-credited even as it was released.

The same with STTMP. While sentient AI is not only a possibility it's a probability, there a huge number of leaps in logic that are not really science based. In the end STTMP isn't about logic, it's about emotional and even metaphysical things.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

I like my Sci-Fi light on the Sci and heavy on the Fi.

I'm more interested in a series that focuses on the characters, their dynamics, relationships, etc than the science and mechanics of it all.

 

[RedAlert]

I like/love the SCIENCE-fiction. Good stories, good plot, good characters and good mysteries. But, let the force, laser sables and dark side to StarWars.

 

[Mudd]

Sci fantasy, the same as Trek has been since day one.

 

[Jarvisimo]

Well many of my favourite sci fi shows have been heavy on either the fantasy (The Leftovers, Babylon 5, BSG, Sense8, Lost, Farscape) and/or a heavy focus on characters and just carrying in the face of inexplicable events (the list above I guess ).

Meyer isn't a fantasy person it seems, but Fuller does love fantasy and surrealism and horror too. Also I love Beyer's Voyager books (Full Circle, etc.), which have touches of fantasy (Q) or species just presented as wonderfully alien, and are 100% about turning boring characters into interesting ones.

I must admit I love other genres too - and hope the new series has the ability to dip in and out of whichever generic sets Fuller et al. want.

What concerns me more than genre is visual style. What direction will it go - that's how the generic interior will be made more suitable or distinct.

 

[-Brett-]

Not sure how "ancient aliens" who "evolved humans" is less of a fantasy than the average Star Trek offering. Doesn't sound like sci fi so much as a different brand of fantasy.

I'd be down for a new intellectual property. In fact, I'd have preferred that over regurgitated Star Trek. But if they're going to do Star Trek, it should be recognizable as such. Some things are too deeply woven into the franchise's DNA to take out now.

 

[mdtauk]

Star Wars and Doctor Who are my science-fantasy fill, as for Sci-Fi, Star Trek, Fringe are what I am looking for.

 

[Kor]

Pure fantasy. Wizards and Orcs and mystical artifacts. Make it like Lord of the Rings in space.

Kor

 

[Relayer1]

I like my Sci-Fi light on the Sci and heavy on the Fi.

I'm more interested in a series that focuses on the characters, their dynamics, relationships, etc than the science and mechanics of it all.

The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Trek has always been a fantasy show with a sci-fi leaning. It's not Star Wars, but faster than light travel, transporters etc... It doesn't matter - both fantasy and hard sci-fi can be character/relationship focused.

TMP showed that Trek could go some way towards serious sci-fi and I loved it. A little more of that would be nice !

 

[TrekE]

Grounded in science to a certain extent, but definitely much more interested in fun stories that you would call the fantasy type.

 

[Ovation]

I just want Star Trek. You know, aliens, spaceships, different planets, action, some scenery chewing--Star Trek.

 

[skip bittman]

Dunno what you are even talking about, it's not like "something actually Sci Fi"

So I'm as excited as the next guy and I'm sure I'll just kick myself and be disappointed but do you people still want basically what is sci fantasy, ie exciting adventures often with some moral baked in there taking place not on earth or are we ready for something actually Sci Fi this time? Finding huge sattelite civilizations, ancient aliens who's been here since the dawn of time, mysterious objects or aliens that might have evolved humans, or are we happy with ridged forehead of the week who has problems with another ridged alien forehead. Do you prefer Arthur C Clark Trek or the same old?

I know I'm in the minority but i actually adored TMP for how close it was to actual Sci Fi and I hope Discovery can take a chance and at least spend a double parter on something much more Sci Fi then your average Trek.

 

[eyeresist]

I know Star Trek had some fantasy leanings in TOS and TAS (and a little bit in TNG), but I prefer a purer sci-fi approach. I mean, the central characters, their ship, and the Federation in general are grounded in the scientific view, so there is a dissonance when they meet the fantastical. When I was a kid, that was okay, but now it's hard to take seriously.