Save the Enterprise Brewery!

[cooleddie74]

What the brewery really needed was the Brewmeister from "Strange Brew!"

DOUG: "Now THAT Hoser don't know a dilithium matrix from his arse, eh?"

DAVE:"You said it!"

 

[Jeri]

Of course, not. He's just an employee!

 

[cooleddie74]

I wish there had been an obvious, glowing reactor core on this Enterprise. It might have helped distract from the pipes and vats.

 

[NiteTrek]

I like the concept they went with, but not the design. Frankly it looked cheap to me.

Yeah, I hated it. Looked like a frickin' brewery. If Abrams insisted on Apple-white for the bridge, he should at least of cleaned up the engine room a bit.

Maybe Scotty will have it looking better in the sequel.

 

[Creedence]

Starfleet is into Overclocking. Theyre gonna get Warp 8 outa a Warp 6 core if it takes a million cubic litres of coolant if they have to.

Sometimes the simplest answer is the best. This makes PERFECT sense.

Thank-you!

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

This guy over at Scifi-Meshes has done up his ideas on how to better dress up a brewery as the engine room:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/63368-engineering-brewery.html

 

[24thcenstfan]

I think the idea of a more industrialized looking engine room was good, but the execution left something to be desired. I would prefer they work on the scale a bit and try to make it look a little less like a brewery. The engine room scenes took away from the realism of the moment (i.e. made it hard for me to suspend disbelief).

 

[rgb1701]

I always *knew* Samuel Adams was more potent than warp plasma

 

[M'Sharak]

This guy over at Scifi-Meshes has done up his ideas on how to better dress up a brewery as the engine room:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/63368-engineering-brewery.html

I like his idea, so far. Unfortunately, the attachments are only going to be viewable at the thumbnail size for people who aren't registered there, so the finer detail is going to be hard to make out.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

M'Sharak,

Suricata's intermix looks kind of like the ENT reactor-design, which I do like. However the room is way too cluttered, I like the TOS design better.

l would also have wanted the design to display three reactors like in the TOS Enterprise design (I'd say one behind the other would be easiest to fit in the hull).

I would have also wanted the computer displays and graphics to be a mix between ENT, TMP, and TVH, and I'd want there to be chairs in various stations in the engineering-room. The whole ship gets rocked in the show, and people should have areas where they could sit.


CuttingEdge100

 

[gimpy117]

I HATED the idea. I'm not saying it shouldn't look like a carpeted office, but the choice of a brewery is one of the schlokiest choices in ANY Sci-Fi thing. Not just Trek.

I can see their desire to be different, but this was a poor way to go.

There are better ways of showing off pipes or something, but when it looks like something out of a schlock production, you've gone too far.

I liked it, but I think a place with an actual fusion reactor like the National Ignition Facility would be even better. Look at the pictures:

might be hard to film in there though...

 

[SeerSGB]

I HATED the idea. I'm not saying it shouldn't look like a carpeted office, but the choice of a brewery is one of the schlokiest choices in ANY Sci-Fi thing. Not just Trek.

I can see their desire to be different, but this was a poor way to go.

There are better ways of showing off pipes or something, but when it looks like something out of a schlock production, you've gone too far.

I liked it, but I think a place with an actual fusion reactor like the National Ignition Facility would be even better. Look at the pictures:

might be hard to film in there though...

Google image search + ILM = CGI set

This guy over at Scifi-Meshes has done up his ideas on how to better dress up a brewery as the engine room:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/63368-engineering-brewery.html

This is pretty close to what I was talking about up thread.

 

[wamdue]

the engineering section is one of the few things about this movie I did not like.

 

[ATimson]

Although, i dont know what they were going for with the turning spirals projected onto the distillers or whatever they are, if they wanted to make it look like some physics breaking thing is going on in them, why not CGI some coold looking reaction effect into the barrel thingies.

Those spirals are apparently part of the brewery's normal lighting.

 

[Gepard]

Although, i dont know what they were going for with the turning spirals projected onto the distillers or whatever they are, if they wanted to make it look like some physics breaking thing is going on in them, why not CGI some coold looking reaction effect into the barrel thingies.

Those spirals are apparently part of the brewery's normal lighting.

Not so much the lighting as the surface of the barrels--those are anisotropic reflections, and they're naturally occurring on metal surfaces with microscopic ridges in them, such as brushed stainless steel (which is undoubtedly what the tanks are).

 

[Soar_Dude]

That's exactly the problem.No engineering space on a modern ship looks that 'neat'.Any plausible engineering bay on a 762 meter long starship capable of FTL speed is gonna need some basic elements,like coolant tanks,water tanks,computer rooms(or farms),batteries,plasma conduits,and the warp reactors themselves.Plus you have the environmental systems like oxygen generators,HVAC systems,water supply,heating and cooling elements.All that stuff is gonna need to be connected to the other 'stuff' somehow-the coolant has to get to the core,the antimatter has to get to the reaction chamber,the power has to be transferred from the chamber indirectly to the devices that need the energy,the Bussards I'd imagine generate heat and require cooling -all the above need to be tied in,and you do that using pipes,joints,and conduits.Seeing as how you'd need a LOT of energy to run the Enterprise,in turn you need a lot of everything else to make the ship liveable,and to keep it from blowing itself up via overheating.

This desire for a 'clean' engineering bay doesn't work-its like opening a car's hood and wanting to see just the motor,without wanting wiring or coolant lines to exist.

I am guessing you have not served onboard a Navy ship then. They are kept very clean there is no oil on the deck leaking pipes there is no dirt on the deck its swept down at least four times a day. I was sorely disappointed with the engine room set it looked like something you see on the Titanic. IT LOOKED LIKE A BREWERY PEOPLE! If it looks like a brewery sounds like a brewery its a BREWERY NOT AN ENGINE ROOM!

 

[NiteTrek]

What could possibly be flowing THROUGH all those pipes?

Coolant.

They had a coolant leak in ST II.

Don't forget TNG. Didn't at least half the episodes have a coolant leak with Geordie doing a gay-roll under a very slowly descending door that he could have easily just ducked under?

 

[Peter the Younger]

I think the idea of a more industrialized looking engine room was good, but the execution left something to be desired. I would prefer they work on the scale a bit and try to make it look a little less like a brewery. The engine room scenes took away from the realism of the moment (i.e. made it hard for me to suspend disbelief).

Yeah, that was the other thing that bugged me. The painted and insulated tanks looked okay, but some of them - the scene where Kirk and Scotty get cornered by Cupcake comes to mind - were so obviously 20th century tech.

 

[Gepard]

I imagine we'll still have anisotropy 200 years from now.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

I was watching an episode of Enterprise yesterday (The Crossing) and they had two wheel valves and a lever valve on the atmosheric system. So much for no hand turned valves on a starship.