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Save the Enterprise Brewery!

The new 1701 engine room is one of the very, very few things about the new movie I could NOT tolerate. It doesn't even look as advanced as Trip's engine room on the century-earlier NX-01. Looks like a space age brewery or waste treatment plant.

Dumb design.
 
I HATED the idea. I'm not saying it shouldn't look like a carpeted office, but the choice of a brewery is one of the schlokiest choices in ANY Sci-Fi thing. Not just Trek.

I can see their desire to be different, but this was a poor way to go.

There are better ways of showing off pipes or something, but when it looks like something out of a schlock production, you've gone too far.

I liked it, but I think a place with an actual fusion reactor like the National Ignition Facility would be even better. Look at the pictures:

 
What could possibly be flowing THROUGH all those pipes? Engines run on exactly three things in Trek: Matter, antimatter, and dilithium crystals. So at the most you'd need TWO pipes, not seventy thousand or however many they had.
 
I hope they redesign main engineering for the next movie to make it a little more TOS or TOS-movielike...PLEASE!!! :scream: That is the worst part of an Enterprise redesign I've never been totally comfortable with to begin with.
 
What could possibly be flowing THROUGH all those pipes?

Coolant.

They had a coolant leak in ST II.

THAT much coolant?

Yowza. Starfleet must have designed the alternate-timeline Enterprise's warp core on a budget...or a dare. Maybe both?:wtf:

Coolant, actuator wiring, sensor wiring, EPS conduits and power taps, heat exchangers, backups (Starfleet's infamous "third backup" policy), computer data and network cables, coolent for them, forcefield safeties, batteries, aux power, etc..
 
Coolant, actuator wiring, sensor wiring, EPS conduits and power taps, heat exchangers, backups (Starfleet's infamous "third backup" policy), computer data and network cables, coolent for them, forcefield safeties, batteries, aux power, etc..

Exactly. I kinda prefer this new 'refinery' look to the Engineering, though I would make one change, in that I'd prefer if there were some central looking 'components' that obviously are critical that the mass of pipes/tanks and the like are based around, if that makes sense?
 
I thought it looked fine. Most of these advanced physics labs look very similar. The combination of a seagoing ship's engine room and a lab was very convincing. As designs are 'frozen' at a particular stage it's always going to look like an Ipod attached to a wax cylinder player. Space shuttle astronauts attaching laptops to the shuttle's computers, for example.
 
It looked great if we doing Laverne & Shirley The Motion Picture, but the Engine Rooms gets a big "no go" from me - low budget looking IMHO.
 
I liked the idea of doing something different with the engine room. I even liked (or at least warmed to) the very low-tech design of it. It's just they didn't go far enough in making it seem like a practical starship engine room (especially those shots that showed the towering ceiling, far above). Remember, this isn't a modern day physics lab, or a nuclear reactor. It's a starship.

It didn't seem like a safe or practical design at all. All those open pipes and catwalks all over the place looked fragile, like one hit from a phaser or torpedo would send the whole thing tumbling down. It should have been subdivided more, with bulkheads, shielding, etc.
 
I thought it looked a bit too concretey. Other than that, it was fine. I think it makes more sense than them crawling through jeffrey tubes and taking off a panel.
 
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