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Saints Row The Third

The characters in RDR are better likeable then the ones in GTA4 and it's much more fun being John Martsen then being Niko Belic...
Some of the sidemissions stuff like the bounties where nice diversions as well...
 
To use a movie analogy: SR is Escape from New York. It's cheesy, it's fun, you'll laugh and get a kick out of it. GTA is The Godfather. Well, thought out, well put together and filled with memorable characters.

I never played through the expansions, but I can't think of a single truly memorable character in Grand Theft Auto IV outside of maybe Little Jacob. Roman's throughline is NIKO MAH CAHSIN BEEG AMERICAN TITTIES. I can't remember a single thing about the Irish family or the Italian mobsters or anyone else in the game. And, as I said, there's a huge disconnect between plot and game. In the cutscenes, Niko mopes around about his past and how he abhors killing now and he's trying to make a new life and all that, but in gameplay, he's a god damned psychopath. GTA is at its best when its characters embrace the kind of game it is, which is why Vice City will always be my favorite of the series: Tommy Vercetti is a bugnuts crazy asshole.

And that's why I prefer Saints Row 2. Like Vercetti, the Boss is just a megalomaniac psycho who says, "Go raid a rival gang's drug factory? Fuck it, sounds like fun." The game completely embraces its over-the-top premise and runs with it.

I'm not saying Grand Theft Auto IV is a bad game. It's just very different from Saints Row 2, which feels more like the GTAs of the previous generation and gives you plenty of things to do. In GTAIV, the only thing to really do is the main plot, or go hunting for a hundred fucking pigeons.

Although I wouldn't recommend playing the original Saints Row over GTAIV. SR1 is really pretty good for a 2006 sandbox game, but the sequel improves upon it in basically every conceivable way. It's not a huge quality gap (for example, there's really no reason whatsoever to play Just Cause when Just Cause 2 exists), but the original is definitely an inferior game experience.
 
Fair enough - I remember the characters a lot more fondly I guess, though making Niko a brooding, remorseful killer was a bit silly. And I'm sorry, but I loved Roman - he had me laughing a lot through the game. I just find them all a lot more memorable than the SR characters. I couldn't even name one off the top of my head. But the game was just goofy ass fun and it didn't take itself too seriously which really was an asset. Like I said, I like them both just for different reasons.
 
Oh, yeah, as I said in my third paragraph, Grand Theft Auto IV is not in any way a bad game. It's just a very different experience. Its engine is definitely better-constructed than Saints Row 2's (particularly in its ability to handle multiple objects on the screen -- in SR2, you're lucky if you see two or three people and two or three cars at any given time). It's just a lot more restrictive than I want a sandbox game to be. As I said, in GTAIV, I can either advance the main plots, play a shitty bowling or darts minigame or hunt for those fucking pigeons, and in the meantime, I'm getting texts and phone calls from my "friends" bitching at me because I'm not bowling or playing darts with them often enough. In Saints Row 2, if I don't want to do a mission, I can go to the airport, get a jumbo jet, fly over the city, bail out and start the base jumping activity, which will let me get a "no fall damage" unlock. And then I can go commit insurance fraud and try and get my ass kicked by multiple vehicles, and then I can drive in a demolition derby. It's just much more free, which is what I expect from a sandbox game.

Anyway, different strokes for different folks and all that.
 
Exactly - opinions are like assholes, etc.

And the side missions are SO much more fun in SR2, no question at all.
 
As for the friends in GTA IV, I'm wondering whether I can have Niko become a serial killer by murdering dates he picks up online. And that's only because it won't let me kill Roman, who really makes me want to kill him...
 
:lol: what's with all the Roman hate here?

Because he's always fucking calling me and saying HEY NIKO MA CAHSIN LET US GO LOOK AT SOME BEEG AMEREECAN TITTIES and sending me texts saying HEY NIKO MA CAHSIN WHY DO WE NOT GO LOOK AT BEEG AMEREECAN TITTIES ANYMORE :(
 
In GTAIV, the only thing to really do is the main plot, or go hunting for a hundred fucking pigeons.

I wish! Its two hundred fucking pigeons. I tracked every single last one down, because I am a bit obsessive about completion, and, dammit, there was an achievement for it. :scream:
 
^Bugger that. I lost count of how many hour I spent mucking around in San Andreas and I never did find all the graffiti tags.
 
Watched the brilliant Machete last night, and it struck me that Robert Rodriguez is probably the only director who could get the tone of a Saints Row movie right...

Damn shame it's 50 Cent who actually optioned the movie rights a couple of years back...
 
Ugh... So, Machete was actually good? I always kind of thought it was best left as a short "joke" trailer.
 
The trailer... basically wasn't. There's one second of footage (literally) and the logo, but lots of gameplay and plot information has been coming lately, including new weapons, new gangs (Luchadores, hackers and security) and all manner of crazy gadgets and game modes...

http://www.destructoid.com/saints-row-3-co-op-no-online-multiplayer-update--195936.phtml

And here's hoping the "fart in a jar" weapon makes it in...
http://www.destructoid.com/demand-to-have-a-fart-in-a-jar-added-to-saints-row-3-196564.phtml
 
This month's Game Informer had a pretty in depth article on SR: The Third, and I have to say they make the game sound like it should be a blast.
 
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