S06E26 Tears of the Prophets (spoilers)

[cultcross]

On the topic of Jadzia's death, it was a particular shame that it was done that way, I felt. Not everyone has to have a grand heroic departure, but at the very least I felt a six year veteran of the show deserved more than basically being in the way during an otherwise unremarkable scene.

It was wartime - there was a great opportunity there to have Jadzia's death drive home the severity of the conflict.

 

[mlbach]

It was almost as senseless a death as Tasha's in TNG

 

[cultcross]

It was almost as senseless a death as Tasha's in TNG

I actually prefer Tasha's. At least the episode is actually about the enemy who kills Tasha, and Tasha is a security officer - a red shirt, in Trek parlance - and a gung ho trigger happy one at that. Her death in such a way is not that hard to swallow.

 

[mlbach]

At least Tasha got to come back...

 

[DamarsKanar]

Yeah I think for me I dislike that Gul Dukat killing Daz doesn't have great significance beyond that it happened and it is heartbreaking. But there was no real sense of poetry to it. Nothing that thematically linked Dukat and Dax and made it all kind of come together in that moment.

Tasha's random death did have sense to it, as a tribute to the redshirt - in a way it worked so well for me because it was like making you care about a red shit and then experiencing a typical senseless red shirt death without the customary shrug and disconnect from random security personnel going down.
But with Dax, unless I am missing some beautiful subtext, I just don't see a greater depth to her death (beyond Dukat is Pure Evil).

 

[cultcross]

Yeah, if anything, Dax is probably the character Dukat had least connection with - Dukat killing Kira would have been hugely impactive because of the characters' history. But Dax? It would have been better to have her killed in battle with the Dominion, or working on a Klingon ship, or saving Benjamin, or pretty much anything with some meaning or impact to it.

 

[DamarsKanar]

I would have loved her to die saving Benjamin...

 

[mlbach]

Or Worf
But yeah, I guess Benjamin would be better, because then Worf would blame him for Jadzia's death. And you don't want Worf mad at you

 

[DamarsKanar]

Or Worf
But yeah, I guess Benjamin would be better, because then Worf would blame him for Jadzia's death. And you don't want Worf mad at you

Yeah...and maybe Worf could have gotten revenge somehow for her death (if it weren't Dukat who killed her - since obviously Dukat was sort of meant for Sisko). After he courted and won the heart of the magnificent Jadzia Dax, it was honestly too much for me that their relationship was cut so short. Oh well, I suppose at least he got her to Sto-vo-kor.

 

[Sakonna]

I find the wrong-place-wrong-time nature of Jadzia's death to be dramatically satisfying. Isn't every death in a war about being in the wrong place at the wrong time? My complaint is that I don't buy she would go to the Bajoran shrine to thank the Prophets, when she had never evidenced that type of interest in the Bajoran faith before. It would have been so easy to stage that in a way that gets her there more organically... the sensors pick up strange emanations from the shrine (the energy of the pagh wraiths, though they don't understand that immediately), so she goes to perform a scan in her capacity as science officer, done.

 

[jonds91]

On the topic of Jadzia's death, it was a particular shame that it was done that way, I felt. Not everyone has to have a grand heroic departure, but at the very least I felt a six year veteran of the show deserved more than basically being in the way during an otherwise unremarkable scene.

It was wartime - there was a great opportunity there to have Jadzia's death drive home the severity of the conflict.

I agree. Very sad. She deserved better. Much better.

 

[Nakita Akita]

I would hardly class Sirtis as 'fat' in S1 of TNG

Remember, it was the 80's.
Go back watch like old shows from that time. ALL of the women are very skinny.
I am about the same size as Siritis and I was always the fat girl at the party!
Still that size, now I'm the skinny girl at the party.

It was just how it was back then.

 

[USS Firefly]

Remember, it was the 80's.
Go back watch like old shows from that time. ALL of the women are very skinny.
I am about the same size as Siritis and I was always the fat girl at the party!
Still that size, now I'm the skinny girl at the party.

It was just how it was back then.

That is terrible that you were called fat!
I never thought of Sirtis as a fat woman, only as a normal/ beautiful woman