S.T. novels should be considered canon in an alt universe
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the only stuff that really gets ignored in SW circles is daffy things like the force powers in jedi starfighter or other wacky things the games do like the giant floating boxes with power-ups in seen in Rogue Squadron that are generally added for gameplay reasons.
the only stuff that really gets ignored in SW circles is daffy things like the force powers in jedi starfighter or other wacky things the games do like the giant floating boxes with power-ups in seen in Rogue Squadron that are generally added for gameplay reasons.
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The rules for fizzbin are easier to grasp...
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Was it Arnold's fault that The Cry of the Onlies was so wildly inconsistent with "Miri"? I heard that some bean counter forced all these changes, such that 1) the book author was forbidden from explaining exactly how, and why, Miri's planet was a parallel Earth, 2) all references to the planet even BEING a duplicate Earth were ordered deleted, and 3) even the NAME of the planet was changed.
Was it Arnold's fault that The Cry of the Onlies was so wildly inconsistent with "Miri"? I heard that some bean counter forced all these changes, such that 1) the book author was forbidden from explaining exactly how, and why, Miri's planet was a parallel Earth, 2) all references to the planet even BEING a duplicate Earth were ordered deleted, and 3) even the NAME of the planet was changed.
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^^That was probably Roddenberry's doing. Later in life, GR regretted some of the things he'd done in TOS, compromises he'd been forced to make for logistical or budgetary reasons. Making Miri's planet a parallel Earth -- with no explanation ever being offered -- was no doubt one of the decisions he regretted being forced to make (and I can hardly blame him). So when the book sequel came along, he probably chose to "rewrite history" to expunge the parallel-Earth idea altogether.
See, that's the ironic thing about the fan assumption that there's some high authority dictating an absolutely rigid, inflexible canon. The whole idea of an authoritarian canon comes from the '89 Roddenberry memo, but Roddenberry himself was perfectly willing to contradict past episodes and reinvent canon as he went. The silliest fan interpretation of canon is the idea that it's somehow even imposed on the showrunners themselves by some undefined higher power. But in reality, canon is determined by whoever is making the show at the time, and as we've seen in many shows, it can be redefined in ways that contradict prior episodes or seasons.
After all, with a novel or a movie, you have time to see how the whole creation works as a whole and to tweak it all to fit together. But a TV series is an ongoing work in progress, so if later on you think of something that works better than what you did early on, you can't go back and fix it, since it's already aired. So you just retcon or ignore it and rely on the audience's willing suspension of disbelief (or short memory, though that's less viable these days).
^^That was probably Roddenberry's doing. Later in life, GR regretted some of the things he'd done in TOS, compromises he'd been forced to make for logistical or budgetary reasons. Making Miri's planet a parallel Earth -- with no explanation ever being offered -- was no doubt one of the decisions he regretted being forced to make (and I can hardly blame him). So when the book sequel came along, he probably chose to "rewrite history" to expunge the parallel-Earth idea altogether.
See, that's the ironic thing about the fan assumption that there's some high authority dictating an absolutely rigid, inflexible canon. The whole idea of an authoritarian canon comes from the '89 Roddenberry memo, but Roddenberry himself was perfectly willing to contradict past episodes and reinvent canon as he went. The silliest fan interpretation of canon is the idea that it's somehow even imposed on the showrunners themselves by some undefined higher power. But in reality, canon is determined by whoever is making the show at the time, and as we've seen in many shows, it can be redefined in ways that contradict prior episodes or seasons.
After all, with a novel or a movie, you have time to see how the whole creation works as a whole and to tweak it all to fit together. But a TV series is an ongoing work in progress, so if later on you think of something that works better than what you did early on, you can't go back and fix it, since it's already aired. So you just retcon or ignore it and rely on the audience's willing suspension of disbelief (or short memory, though that's less viable these days).
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What till Star Trek XI comes out:
"Pocket Books, Ballantine, DC, IDW, FASA, ADB, LUG are now CANON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! "
What till Star Trek XI comes out:
"Pocket Books, Ballantine, DC, IDW, FASA, ADB, LUG are now CANON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! "
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The essential and only thing online worth reading about the subject of "canon:"
http://paulcornell.blogspot.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who.html
I see that the Shat's not happy about the handling of his latest non-canon collaboration:
http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/29/shatner-on-past-and-present-books/
The essential and only thing online worth reading about the subject of "canon:"
http://paulcornell.blogspot.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who.html
I see that the Shat's not happy about the handling of his latest non-canon collaboration:
http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/29/shatner-on-past-and-present-books/
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Everything same continuity, unless it's obvious it's not. Discrepancies resolved with in-universe explanations.
That simple enough?
Everything else you might see is just people getting overly specific.
Everything same continuity, unless it's obvious it's not. Discrepancies resolved with in-universe explanations.
That simple enough?
Everything else you might see is just people getting overly specific.
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Like most continuity issues surround the early days of Kirk's mission, it's easily solved by ignoring Enterprise: The First Adventure.
What mystery?
Like most continuity issues surround the early days of Kirk's mission, it's easily solved by ignoring Enterprise: The First Adventure.
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I like flying horses ...
But that's part of my personal cannon!Steve Mollmann said:
Like most continuity issues surround the early days of Kirk's mission, it's easily solved by ignoring Enterprise: The First Adventure.
I like flying horses ...
Re: S.T. novels should be considered canon in an alt univer
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Re: S.T. novels should be considered canon in an alt univer
Only if you're out of cake.
Only if you're out of cake.
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