Rumor about the Doctor's Regenerations (spoilers)

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

so if the doctor knows he isn't going to regenerate, why does he set up the tessalecta to simulate one?

To make it more convincing. the first shot should have mortally wounded him. if he didn't start regenerating then, it might have caused suspicions.
Plus River or Amy might have described the events in that much detail to him, since tehy already saw them.

 

[UssGlenn]

I suppose we just have to assume that only the Doctor has a true count, and the Silence are operating under the same incomplete info as we were.

 

[Mr Soak]

Of course you could fudge your way round this by saying that it’s only his body trying to regenerate, and that even if River hadn’t shot him again the regenerative energy would have faded to leave a corpse there anyway…maybe!

Which is entirely possible. In The Twin Dilemma, Azmael triggered a thirteenth regenration and subsequently died from its failure.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

the first shot should have mortally wounded him. if he didn't start regenerating then, it might have caused suspicions.

But we have seen Time Lords receive wounds that should have triggered a regeneration but did not do so. (such as the newsreader from "The Deadly Assassin" - although he could easily have regenerated offscreen of course)

Has there ever been anything on the show regarding wounds so severe as to defeat the regeneration process - a "final death" no matter which body a Time Lord is on?

 

[UssGlenn]

well the eighth doctor was dead until the sisters brought him back, the crash was enough to kill him permanently. also Ten died (drowning?) without regenerating in "turn left" without Donna to save him.

 

[Noddy]

Actually, remember when River gave up her regenerations to the Doctor? Who's to say that that regeneration effect in Angels Take Manhattan wasn't the Doctor giving back to River her regenerations?

But River's body didn't regenerate in Forest of the Dead.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

well the eighth doctor was dead until the sisters brought him back, the crash was enough to kill him permanently. also Ten died (drowning?) without regenerating in "turn left" without Donna to save him.

Or he drowned, regenerated, drowned again, etc.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

well the eighth doctor was dead until the sisters brought him back, the crash was enough to kill him permanently. also Ten died (drowning?) without regenerating in "turn left" without Donna to save him.

Or he drowned, regenerated, drowned again, etc.

The dialog suggested he died to fast to regenerate at all.

 

[Sindatur]

This may of course be wrong, but, I've always had the impression, that just about anything, except for simultaneously destroying both hearts, can pretty much be recovered from, if you have Regenerations left (Though, as with McGann/Hurt or Pertwee/T. Baker, it may require a "kickstart" to Regenerate)

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

This may of course be wrong, but, I've always had the impression, that just about anything, except for simultaneously destroying both hearts, can pretty much be recovered from, if you have Regenerations left (Though, as with McGann/Hurt or Pertwee/T. Baker, it may require a "kickstart" to Regenerate)

So Pertwee got more radiation than Tennant?

And McGann's body didn't look that bad off after the crash.

I realize it's a plot device, but they're very inconsistent on what will "kill" a Timelord permanently, outside of refusing to regenerate.

The only one that made sense was shooting Smith again during the regeneration, disrupting the process mid-stream and all.

 

[Sindatur]

So Pertwee got more radiation than Tennant?

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Nah, Tom Baker just isn't as spastic as Smith, he's more laid back, so, he needed the kickstart, whereas Smith was just burstin' to Regenerate and Recover

BTW, poor wording in my previous posts, I should've said "Should pretty much be able to recover from" rather than "Can"

 

[The Wormhole]

Actually, remember when River gave up her regenerations to the Doctor? Who's to say that that regeneration effect in Angels Take Manhattan wasn't the Doctor giving back to River her regenerations?

But River's body didn't regenerate in Forest of the Dead.

River told the Doctor that if he had hooked himself up to that apparatus it would burn out both his hearts and he wouldn't be able to regenerate. Presumably, the same would apply to River if she had regeneration ability.

 

[TorontoTrekker]

So I09 has a story where Moffat explains which number Matt Smith's doctor actually holds. There is also a rumor that the Christmas Special will address the issue head on…

Link

Lets just assume that the rumor is true…how do you think Capaldi will fit into all of this?

Spoiler: I suspect that

We may actually get a literal Reboot of the Doctor himself. The Doctor's time/lifeline might fold in on itself and Capaldi would in effect be the new Hartnell. It might explain why they went older with the new Doctor.

Interesting idea. And the fact that during the battle scene in "Day of the Doctor," there's a brief glimpse of a nebula that just happens to look like the crack in the universe that we've seen many times before (at about the 1:48 mark of this scene), makes me wonder whether this might not be the way they'll go.