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Romulan War

I'm in favor of pretty much anything that lets us find out more about the Romulans, and I think there are some fab ideas here, but I particularly like the idea of a cloak-and-dagger, espionage-and-intrigue thing, as described by Funngunner and Bacl. Ooh, can we have treachery and heroism, too? I think we should!
 
I think this could be done really easily, given that most wars don't just HAPPEN, there's a long gradual build-up to them, full of subterfuge and intrigue.
The Earth-Romulan War has a very simple implied cause already embedded in canon:

The Romulans have spent millenia in exile and are chafing to re-take their homeworld of Vulcan.

Meanwhile, the Vulcans are making alliances with various aliens such as humans, possibly because the Vulcans are aware that the "dissidents" - maybe they don't know their name is "Romulan" - are out there somewhere are constitute an eventual threat. So beefing up their alliances is the ahem logical thing to do.

Humans etc have no clue about the dissidents. The Vulcans aren't about to tell anyone they are potentially "toxic" allies. And to get the Vulcans off the hook, it's doubtful they know anything concrete about the dissidents and if/when they might attack.

This explains why the Romulan attack on Earth seems mysterious and unmotivated. Even the Vulcans don't really know for sure who the Romulans are or what their motives are, but I'll bet that one of the prevailing theories among Vulcans at least is that they are the dissidents come back to haunt them.

Which explains why Spock later is so quick to make the Romulans = old time Vulcan dissidents equation in Balance of Terror. After all, Vulcanoids aren't the only pointy eared species in the universe. ;)
 
One thing I've always thought might have potential here is what if Earth knew more about the Romulans that most (Vulcans) suspected and even knew of the impending initial attack and they let it happen anyway--sort of a Churchill/Coventry scenario.

This could shape up for a good ol' Trek story in regards to exploring how a so-called more "enlightened" human race could do something like that.
 
One thing I've always thought might have potential here is what if Earth knew more about the Romulans that most (Vulcans) suspected and even knew of the impending initial attack and they let it happen anyway--sort of a Churchill/Coventry scenario.

This could shape up for a good ol' Trek story in regards to exploring how a so-called more "enlightened" human race could do something like that.

I don't like this idea. I prefer the whole Earth wants only peace and the Romulans just attack out of the blue and very unexpectedly and quickly. I prefer the idea that Earth and even the Vulcans have absolutely no idea who these Romulans are.
 
The Romulans have spent millenia in exile and are chafing to re-take their homeworld of Vulcan.

In my story this is the main reason behind the war. the Romulans want to destroy the unemotional Vulcans and return things to the old way. The problem is the humans are holding an ancient artifact that would make the Romulans unbeatable. The war with Earth is to get the artifact back, but earth doesn't prove to be such an easy defeat.

The Vulcans only have a few hazy ancient myths to go on about who the Romulans are or if they even exist.
 
OMG OMG OMG i've just found a youtube video that has THE greatest weapons effect i've ever seen and THAT is the kind of weapons effect I want to see in the new Earth Romulan war series. Check it out HERE and fast forward it to 30 seconds and check out the weapons. A series featureing Earth ships firing weapons like these and with the same sound effect would be amazing!
 
In my story this is the main reason behind the war. the Romulans want to destroy the unemotional Vulcans and return things to the old way. The problem is the humans are holding an ancient artifact that would make the Romulans unbeatable. The war with Earth is to get the artifact back, but earth doesn't prove to be such an easy defeat.

Why bother with a macguffin when the Romulans would attack Earth simply because the Vulcans are starting to form an alliance with them? Earth may not be the most advanced society but it has potential for growth, and humans are also making contacts with Andorians, Tellerites and other aliens.

The Romulans watch all of this from afar and realize they better do something soon or else the Vulcans will soon be ensconsed in a "federation" of some sort that will protect them from outside attack. They attack Earth rather than Vulcan first because that way, they confuse everyone as to their identities - attacking Vulcan first would be a dead giveaway. But the attack and the war is directed at the whole incipient alliance.

And I do like the notion of some humans having a pretty good idea of who the Romulans are. Sounds like a job for S31. And they would be sophisticated enough to understand why this should not be public knowledge, because of the latent xenophobia among some humans. All these alliances with aliens are going to be making people nervous, and here comes an example of exactly why they should make you nervous - they draw you into other people's squabbles.

There should be humans and Vulcans at high levels of government/secret services who conspire to keep it all secret. And it would stay secret for a long time. Someone like Kirk would have no clue; someone like Spock (an ambassador's son and a perceptive guy) might have overheard enough that he could deduce the rest, yet have no proof of anything until the Romulans pop up on a viewscreen one day.

You don't need a macguffin for this story - it has its own internal engine propelling the action, and that's always the best kind of story because it feels less forced.
 
Why bother with a macguffin when the Romulans would attack Earth simply because the Vulcans are starting to form an alliance with them? Earth may not be the most advanced society but it has potential for growth, and humans are also making contacts with Andorians, Tellerites and other aliens.

Well in the last episode of ENT when Archer steps out into that huge conference hall to make a speech it's made clear that at that moment the founders of the Federation are forming an alliance and NOT the Federation because Deanna says something to the effect of "none of these people knew that this alliance was the first steps towards creating the Federation". So it's possible that after the Alliance is formed the Romulans decide to launch an attack on Earth. The war then lasts for 4 years and then the Alliance becomes the Federation.

Perhaps the alliance is formed due to increasing Romulan activity and when the alliance is signed the Romulans decide it's the last straw.
 
Good ideas there Temis. I agree that there is enough stuff there for a good story even without my macguffin(I had to look that up Hahaha). And for those in the B and C plot that pretty much what the story would be. Only those characters in the A plot know about the true motivations behind the war. The A plot centers on this device the "eye of Senak" It speaks of it's creation and uses. The A plot tells of Senak gathering forces on Romulus and then attacking Vulcanis(or Vulcan if you prefer). He is eventually defeated and retreats to Romulus. Becuase of the "Eye" he is immortal so to speak and begins re building his troops to try again and conquer Vulcanis. The "Eye" ends up in the hands of the humans. So Senak's motivation is primarily revenge. However Senak is not seen by most Romulans. He is more like a sit-in-a-big-throne-and-command guy. Physicaly weak but very powerful. The reason I decided to put the A plot in my story is to give it a more epic almost mythical(or dare I say fantasy) type feeling. So the A plot is more of the secret society "we know what's really going on" plot. I don't like the idea of S31 much earlier than DS9 where it was mentioned. Earth has come out of WWIII and in some ways still recovering. Humans are toward the end of becoming "advanced." I'd hate to think we'd still have secret government organizations working behind the scenes. The United Earth government is fairly new and I imagine because of WWIII the founders made sure to pass laws to prevent the formation of such secret societies.

The B plot which focuses on the Crew members of the Enterprise (except Captain Stiles because he is tied up in plot A). It is about their missions during the war. Since the Captain would not be aboard we would mostly see the first officer in command of the Enterprise. But I don't want to make it seem like the Enterprise is the biggest most important ship in the fleet, it's not. It's just another science ship that got dragged into the war.

The C plot would be the rest of the war effort. This wont neccessarily be the main plot but will probably be the biggest. The B and C plots will intertwine pretty often. The C plot would focus not only on earth ships but allied ships. I want to include ground battles as well as space ship battles. I want ground battles to give it a bit more of a Halo feel, with ground vehicles and tanks, and whatever other alien equipment there would be. The ground battles would be fought be by a division of UESPA called the Special Space Task Force(SSTF). I guess it could be called like a "marines" or something but I hate putting Marines on space ships. The SSTF would use United Earth Army ranks but would also include pilots, and naval vehicles.

I added the SSTF for two reasons. It seemed more reasonable than putting UESPA on the ground. Also it explains part of the experpt from Picards scrapbook about "Federation Day." It mentions Georges Picard and that he is a Major General of UESPA. Since UESPA has naval rating having an "Army" branch of UESPA helps explain it.

I also want to include another species of allies or maybe Romulan allies. They would be the Greys. You know big heads, small bodies, big eyes, flying saucers all that stuff. But I would also explain why we never see them in later series'. I like the idea of them having conflicts with the Vulcanians. Sort of taking the place of the Andorians in ENT.
The conflicts could come from the two species approach to exploration. Vulcanians: Watch, take notes, don't interfere. Greys: Go down, abduct specimens, take samples, maybe even enter into alliances with governments to trade technology for genetic material. The whole Grey thing needs some work but I like it.

Sorry I went on so long. I didn't mean to write so much. I just started throwing my ideas out there for my book series(which would never get published because of copyright laws).
 
Pardon me for sounding like a liberal gassbag (which I proudly am), But I've always been keen on the idea that Earth would would be responsible for the E/RW. For one thing, it would make an interesting and dramatic twist. I mean, agressive Romulans attack Earth outpost and plunges both sides in a war? Who wouldn't see that comming?:rolleyes: Another thing to consider is that it would give Earth added incentive to form a Federation in the first place. Not only to ensure that member worlds would band together in the name of peace, but to attone for past sins. And since victory is written by the victors, the Federation could easily cover up the truth, just as every great society has since the beginning of time. Besides, can you honestly say that something as massive and powerful as the Federation was built soely on smiles and handshakes? There's gotta be one or two skeletons. An E/R War would be the ideal place to expose 'em. I know Trekkies, comfortable in their black and white view of things, would consider this heresy, but this is war we are talking about. It's more complicated than all the John Wayne proprganda BS of the past. And today's audience has grown beyond that. That doesn't mean you can't have good people doing the right thing. Just up the stakes with a more complex atmosphere.
 
Those are some good ideas blockaderunner. I think that actually gives it a bit more realistic feel to it than "good guys attacked by bad guys and good guys win."
 
I really wanted to see the Romulan War in ENT, and if we got season 5, we may well have. I too would enjoy a Romulan War movie or miniseries. If the new film convinces Paramount there are enough Trekkies out there, hopefully we will finally see one.
 
I think the Vulcans knew more about the Romulans than they let on (obviously). Remember T'Pol's immediate reaction in 'Minefield' when she saw their written language. 'It's called Romulan'.
 
I think the Vulcans knew more about the Romulans than they let on (obviously). Remember T'Pol's immediate reaction in 'Minefield' when she saw their written language. 'It's called Romulan'.


Yes, the Romulans had been encountered before by the Vulcans but there's no reason the believe they knew more than they were letting on.
 
I'm pretty sure Enterprise would have eventually gotten around to the Romulan War, but the producers thought the show was cancellation-proof. Much like how the Dominion war was put off to the last seasons of DS9.
 
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