So you sayin' they some kinda Suicide Squad?
Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)
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So you sayin' they some kinda Suicide Squad?
Not buying that Biggs choked. But of course he's panicking, because he's about to get overwhelmed and killed, like all the wingmen on the other attack runs before. If he's struggling with the controls, it's because he's trying to do something about it, but he can't, there's nothing that can be done.
His last word:
Even Luke needed Han to save him from that.
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W00t!
Now I'm pretty sure Biggs Darklighter is in Rogue One!
I can see it a vague resemblance, but a lot of it hinges on the mustache... the face is not very similar.
Chances are, the writers of the movie remember damn well who he is, and given he is Luke Skywalker's best friend, he is just the sort of minor character to give an expanded role in the movie just so you can have a tangential link to the main series. Yes, it is small universe syndrome, but somehow, I doubt that is a concern for Disney.
Biggs and Wedge were both basically an extra set of rear shields for Luke in that situation. Wedge says as much in the Rogue Squadron novels.
Why Luke was flying point is probably a better question.
I'm just saying resemblance isn't a huge deal because 95% of the people watching the movie won't make the connection and it is exactly the sort of thing the fans will appreciate rather than rail against because he wasn't important enough that changes will have any real impact on his previous role in the overall story.
Red Leader ordered it: "Luke, take Red Two and Three. Hold up here and wait for my signal to start your run."
Why would he do that? It was supposed to be a computer-controlled attack that the least experienced pilot could handle just as well as the most experienced. Ergo, the best chance of overall success was to put the most experienced pilots on cover. You don't want green cover that the enemy fighters can quickly blast through to get to the leader.
Luke apparently did extremely well in their simulator to qualify to be a fighter pilot in the time they needed o analysis the Death Star plans.
When questioned by Red Leader, Biggs even says that Luke is the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories. Red Leader accepts that easily enough. Either Biggs pulls a lo of weight, or he's just one that isn't known to boast like that if he didn't mean it.
And Luke is pretty good. Wedge seems to have hit it off with Skywalker pretty fast in the briefing room followed of course by the fast save over the Death Star.
When questioned by Red Leader, Biggs even says that Luke is the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories. Red Leader accepts that easily enough. Either Biggs pulls a lo of weight, or he's just one that isn't known to boast like that if he didn't mean it.
And Luke is pretty good. Wedge seems to have hit it off with Skywalker pretty fast in the briefing room followed of course by the fast save over the Death Star.
So what would be the acceptable ratio? 50:50?
Honestly i don't see a problem, the entire elite team is being led by a woman, Star Wars itself has placed women in important positions at a time where gender equality was a term no one has heard of. The entire Rebellion is led by a woman.
I just don't know about these complaints nowadays.. if you don't have x% of gays the show/movie is homophobic, if you don't have x% of women the show/TV is gender unequal etc.
Not that it even remotely matters but how many women actually serve in elite strike teams around the world?
I understand that women struggle to be recognized as equals in the world and i support that but why is there always complaining whenever someone thinks there are not enough women?
Do you really want writers to run through a checklist each time they write something so they don't exclude anyone and everybody gets their fair ratio and screen time?
Oh, yeah.
Plus, Luke was doing well enough as the actual attack unfolded. He evaded the laser emplacements, strafed, shot down a fighter, and avoided getting shot down himself. He saved Biggs' butt, and Wedge saved his. They were a tight group. Red Leader was right to keep the three of them together, and he was trusting the attack run to someone who knew what he was doing.
Is there anything legally stopping Disney from using deleted Biggs-scenes from ANH in Rogue One? To tie the Rogue One more closely to OT?
Maybe show Biggs say goodbye to Luke on Tatooine before the team assembles in the movie.
Maybe show Biggs say goodbye to Luke on Tatooine before the team assembles in the movie.
Well... confusion? Because the actor in the deleted scenes is not the actor in this - unless they CGI him over the top.
CGI him. Would be relatively easy to do. Maybe even dub some new lines.
And they couldnt be watching the battle overhead, like in the original delete scene, since Rogue One will be set before ANH. So they would need to edit and dub it. And maybe just show that goodbye scene.
But I think that it would be nice tie-in to the ANH if they show how all the members of the team come together and where they are from.
Have they even confirmed that the guy is playing Biggs, or are fans just basing all of this on a passing resemblance?
And yeah, technically they probably could use the ANH footage to stitch together a Forest Gump scene of Biggs saying goodbye to Luke *before* the mission, but I suspect it'd be pretty janky and obviously messed with.
Like that tribbles episodes of DS9 which seemed impressive at the time, but now most of the shots look like someone on youtube photoshopped them in as a student film project. At least any time a modern actor has to directly interact with someone in old footage. Just inserting people into the set is subtle enough that you can get away with it.
In this case having this bloke carry on a conversation with 40 year old footage of Hamill is going to be very tricky in terms of matching performances out of the original context of the scene.
All that aside, I think it'd just smack too much of fan service and winking at the camera, which seems like it's not in keeping with the more sombre tone this film is supposedly going for.
And yeah, technically they probably could use the ANH footage to stitch together a Forest Gump scene of Biggs saying goodbye to Luke *before* the mission, but I suspect it'd be pretty janky and obviously messed with.
Like that tribbles episodes of DS9 which seemed impressive at the time, but now most of the shots look like someone on youtube photoshopped them in as a student film project. At least any time a modern actor has to directly interact with someone in old footage. Just inserting people into the set is subtle enough that you can get away with it.
In this case having this bloke carry on a conversation with 40 year old footage of Hamill is going to be very tricky in terms of matching performances out of the original context of the scene.
All that aside, I think it'd just smack too much of fan service and winking at the camera, which seems like it's not in keeping with the more sombre tone this film is supposedly going for.
There's no magic number that anyone is looking for, but 1 out of 7 is atrocious. The rest of your post is basically saying hey, over 6 movies and 2 tv shows, you've gotten like 5 strong female characters, you should shut up and be grateful for that. I'm not going to apologize for saying that Star Wars has done a shit job representing women on screen, because it's true.