Rogers sucks

[John200]

If your from Canada you may know about this sack of shit company.

They have this idiotic download cap of 60 gigs ,they dictate to the customer ,instead of the other way around ,and they are just plan money whores.

Why this company can still exist is beyond me.

Fuck those rich cocksuckers!

How much money do they need?

 

[Canadave]

Yeah! Thank the gods we have such, fair, egalitarian alternatives like...

uh...

Bell.

Fuck.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Virgin media here in the UK, speed throttling(sorry i mean traffic management), a 12 hour download cap from 9am till 9pm......caps between those times from 9am till 3pm(3gig), 4p till 9pm 1.5gig, go over those caps and your down to a impressive 1gig for 5 hours....and that was assuming your paid for connection ever reached its advertised speed, I'm on 10meg but you would not think it no matter the time of day, never gets near it.

And even if you don't get anywhere near the cap using your connection in the evenings for anything other than surfing web pages would be foolish, its like going back to 64k cable modem.

And here is the best part, they are the best option here in the UK, BT and sky are on a similar par.

But not to worry, this new tax on everybody who dares have a land line phone in their home will help improve the Internet here in the UK....much the same as our road tax keeps the roads here in the UK in tip top condition, well apart from the moon sized craters that's they are calling pot that are appearing the length and breadth of the UK at this time.....its like your actually driving about the roads in Sim city were you have only a small amount of money funding it.

Right sorry about that ...rant over.

 

[T'Baio]

Yeah, that's a good business plan.

"How much money do we need?"
"Well, we're almost there, so start cutting prices!"
"I can't wait till we have enough, so we can start giving our services away for free!"

 

[eastman23]

Yeah! Thank the gods we have such, fair, egalitarian alternatives like...

uh...

Bell.

Fuck.

Out west we have Shaw...

...

Not that there's any difference.

 

[Marc]

If your from Canada you may know about this sack of shit company.

They have this idiotic download cap of 60 gigs ,they dictate to the customer ,instead of the other way around ,and they are just plan money whores.

Why this company can still exist is beyond me.

Fuck those rich cocksuckers!

How much money do they need?

Well it could be worse - you could have Bell.

When we moved to a new apartment we went with Cogeco (and yeah their limits, caps and metered uploads blow chunks) for everything and Bell kept ringing to try and get us to come back to them.

Their phone line prices suck and the less set about their crappy internet plans the better - they've got the name but the limits - forget it.

 

[Yoda]

They could at least offer 'rollover GB' or something. It's not like they give people a discount for light usage. I guess it boils down to how you want to look at network traffic. In the US, at least, broadband providers started off advertising mostly throughput, with little if any mention of caps. Once they realized that some people would actually use what they paid for, then the talks about usage caps started. There's been a healthy backlash, and rightfully so. I'm very happy that Time Warner's plans were foiled, at least for now

Seems like anyone who answers to the Queen is getting a shit deal. The Scandinavians all seem to have awesome Internet without the providers going bankrupt... so what's the deal?

As far as I can tell it comes down to being unwilling to upgrade the infrastructure. The Internet is essentially a required public utility at this point, and demand is going to keep going up regardless. Fix the infrastructure instead of trying to band-aid it with usage caps.

The AT&T guys recently rolled out U-Verse here. What a half-assed infrastructure upgrade. Fiber to the node, then good old phone line copper trying to deliver TV and Internet for the last bit of length. I ended up canceling their Internet, but keeping the TV. Which does occasionally cut out because of that phone wire run.

 

[Arrqh]

I've never used Rogers but I so sick of their damn commercial! I must have seen it 20 times a day during the Olympics

I've been in Canada for about 3.5 years and I've used both Bell and Telus so far. I can't believe I actually miss Verizon. Yeesh.

 

[Trippy]

I use both Rogers and Bell, which are the only options here. There's pluses and minuses for both. C'est la vie; I just bite the bullet and try to use the best of both services (Bell's internet is a bit better, Roger's cell service and pricing is slightly better and I use Roger's cable, as Bell satellite from what I understand is undependable)

 

[Marc]

They could at least offer 'rollover GB' or something. It's not like they give people a discount for light usage. I guess it boils down to how you want to look at network traffic. In the US, at least, broadband providers started off advertising mostly throughput, with little if any mention of caps. Once they realized that some people would actually use what they paid for, then the talks about usage caps started. There's been a healthy backlash, and rightfully so. I'm very happy that Time Warner's plans were foiled, at least for now

Seems like anyone who answers to the Queen is getting a shit deal. The Scandinavians all seem to have awesome Internet without the providers going bankrupt... so what's the deal?

As far as I can tell it comes down to being unwilling to upgrade the infrastructure. The Internet is essentially a required public utility at this point, and demand is going to keep going up regardless. Fix the infrastructure instead of trying to band-aid it with usage caps.

The AT&T guys recently rolled out U-Verse here. What a half-assed infrastructure upgrade. Fiber to the node, then good old phone line copper trying to deliver TV and Internet for the last bit of length. I ended up canceling their Internet, but keeping the TV. Which does occasionally cut out because of that phone wire run.

It's a bit more than answering the queen.

Somewhere like Sweden is a lot smaller than say Canada or Australian (which has lots of competition despite a population smaller than the California).

Therefore rolling of Internet infrastructure is large, more complex and costlier project than that for Sweden.

Canada is also restricted by there being so few players in the market.

But probably the biggest cost is the data cost. Much of the data on the net originates in the use so you're not paying carriier fees that other coutnries do (and in the case of Australian ISPs there pay for data going in both directions).

Would be intersting to see what the data costs are for a Canadian ISP versus what they are for U.S given both countries are on the same continent and it's not like they've had to lay in large undersea links.

 

[gturner]

That's so sad. I live in Kentucky, where everything is supposed to happen ten years later (according to Mark Twain), but both Insight and Windstream are so fast that I often see your comments a couple of minutes before you post them.

 

[T J]

What is this... download cap...? you speak of? I've never heard of such a thing.

How ridiculous! I can download all I want (and I've put that to a few tests), no problem...

Crossing my fingers that cheapskate policy never finds it's way here.

 

[Yoda]

It's a bit more than answering the queen.

Just pointing out the correlation. Seems like Internet kind of blows in Canada, the UK, and Australia. Aussies seem to have it the worst, at least judging from people on gaming sites. Very meager bandwidth caps and they got some moral crusader making sure that there can't be M rated games until he dies

Somewhere like Sweden is a lot smaller than say Canada or Australian (which has lots of competition despite a population smaller than the California).

Therefore rolling of Internet infrastructure is large, more complex and costlier project than that for Sweden.

Seems like being more densely populated should make it easier in some ways. Shorter cable runs for one. Look at South Korea, large population density, and everybody is seemingly online, I don't think I've ever heard mention of bandwidth caps, but to be fair, I don't talk to a lot of Koreans.

But certainly, the US is bigger in terms of population than Canada, and since we're not all huddling on our southern border for warmth, we're effectively bigger in geographical area for Internet purposes.

Canada is also restricted by there being so few players in the market.

Does Sweden have more players, being a smaller country and all?

But probably the biggest cost is the data cost. Much of the data on the net originates in the use so you're not paying carriier fees that other coutnries do (and in the case of Australian ISPs there pay for data going in both directions).

Well, I don't know anything about these fees, but there's more than one backbone carrier in the US, so they're still handing data to each other and presumably dealing with the same sort of fees, right?

Considering that Australia is its own decently isolated continent, it does make sense that they're going to have more expenses. But Canada and Britain? That makes less sense.

Maybe these other countries are developing content in their own language whereas the English speaking countries have more of a demand for American content? That seems like a stretch to me, but I guess I don't know the details.

Would be intersting to see what the data costs are for a Canadian ISP versus what they are for U.S given both countries are on the same continent and it's not like they've had to lay in large undersea links.

And most major Canadian cities are closer than say Denver is to another major American city... Laying and maintaining lines shouldn't really be that much of a problem.

 

[Amaris]

That's a shame. I downloaded about 28 GB worth of data yesterday. I'm glad there's still no cap here.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

If your from Canada you may know about this sack of shit company.

They have this idiotic download cap of 60 gigs ,they dictate to the customer ,instead of the other way around ,and they are just plan money whores.

Why this company can still exist is beyond me.

Fuck those rich cocksuckers!

How much money do they need?

Yeah! Thank the gods we have such, fair, egalitarian alternatives like...

uh...

Bell.

Fuck.

Or Shaw
Fuck , Shit, those assholes!

 

[Daneel]

I use Rogers, and so far, I haven't really had too many problems with them. Of course, my internet needs are fairly simple -- if I downloaded more stuff, maybe I'd be singing a different tune.

 

[Rii]

So do all Canadian ISPs try and pass themselves off as family-owned businesses or is it just a quirk of this thread?

 

[T'Baio]

That's a shame. I downloaded about 28 GB worth of data yesterday. I'm glad there's still no cap here.

I'm curious...what are you downloading that adds up to 28 gigs in one day?

 

[Bisz]

Bell and Rogers are ASS!!!!

If you can, get TekSavvy for internet, SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in every respect.

 

[Yoda]

That's a shame. I downloaded about 28 GB worth of data yesterday. I'm glad there's still no cap here.

I'm curious...what are you downloading that adds up to 28 gigs in one day?

With J, I'm going to guess it's mature content involving Furries

Sadly my router's NVRAM got reset somehow, so I lost the logs on my record days. The day I decided I was going to give 'Chuck' a try was probably about 50GB of Bluray rips. I'm pretty sure that I've had a Usenet queue running nonstop for over a day, which on my connection would've been about 150GB over 24 hours.