Roberto Orci Offers Star Trek 2 Update
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"For the love of God, give us the "REAL" engine room, with the "REAL" warp core instead of beer barels and empty whatnot!"
I agree!
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Oh wait you mean the TOS movies.
Oops. :Grin:
The new engine room fits the new Enterprise. Keep it!
For the love of God, give us the "REAL" engine room, with the "REAL" beer core instead of flashing lights and whatnot! :Wink:
I read online somewhere that the Enterprise is only a little bigger than the TMP refit.
:Thumbs up:
I agree!
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Oh wait you mean the TOS movies.
Oops. :Grin:
The new engine room fits the new Enterprise. Keep it!
For the love of God, give us the "REAL" engine room, with the "REAL" beer core instead of flashing lights and whatnot! :Wink:
I read online somewhere that the Enterprise is only a little bigger than the TMP refit.
:Thumbs up:
Here's where they're going to falter... taking fans way too seriously. Writing by committee is bad and a committee of myopic hundreds is worse still.
I would tweak the brewery digitally, and yet not lose it.
I would tweak the brewery digitally, and yet not lose it.
The biggest size for the Enterprise (and seemingly the one the shuttlebay and bridge window scaled to) is a whopping 1200 meters. The brewery would fit in there.
Agreed. It makes me chuckle when I see Bob Orci commenting over at the Trekmovie site but it worries me a little when he starts agreeing with some of commenters there. I don't know if he's trolling or rolling with it sometimes
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allright...WonderCon: Roberto Orci Offers Star Trek 2 Update
Source: ComingSoon.net
April 2, 2011
Immediately following a very well-received Cowboys & Aliens panel at this weekend's WonderCon in San Francisco, producer and screenwriter Robert Orci spoke with press backstage about the film, also dropping a few details about the upcoming Star Trek sequel which he's scripting alongside writing partner Alex Kurtzman.
In addition to saying that he thinks that production will begin this fall, Orci admitted that specific fan reactions to the original film have directly influenced the sequel's narrative and dropped a few hints about what fans can expect.
"Everyone said [Kirk] is too young to become Captain," he explains, "So maybe in the next movie, somebody goes, 'Man, you sure became Captain young and fast.' You start to incorporate people's opinions... If it's organic to the story and you find someone who doesn't think too highly of Kirk because he maybe skipped a few steps, that's maybe a fun thing to consider. That comes from a fan reaction and maybe gives you a story point."
Rightfully proud of the 2009 film, Orci still recognizes that there were other issues with the project that didn't sit well with the entire fanbase and hopes that the sequel might offer a chance to rectify some of them.
"[Fans] wanted more character time with everybody," he adds, "and, because that was an origin story for 'Star Trek,' everyone had to come in at a certain point. Now everyone is going to be there from the beginning, so they're going to get that. Everyone sure hated engineering. They thought it looked like a brewery, which it was. I'll pass that on to J.J. [Abrams] and see what he says."
While the first draft of the script is complete, Orci's job is far from over and plans to be working on the sequel for some time to come.
"We'll be working and tweaking that story through shooting," he says, "This time we don't have a strike, so we'll actually be able to change things on the set. On the last movie, we handed in the script and that was it. You couldn't change a word. This one feels like we've got all the time in the world."
What a sad, stupid and ignorant explanation for the mess he put on screen. If I hear "it's an origin story" again anytime, for bad writing, it will be too soon. Only an idiot attempts give an origin for every character in one movie....
What a colossal fool.
you don't have many friends, do you?allright...WonderCon: Roberto Orci Offers Star Trek 2 Update
Source: ComingSoon.net
April 2, 2011
Immediately following a very well-received Cowboys & Aliens panel at this weekend's WonderCon in San Francisco
In addition to saying that he thinks that production will begin this fall, Orci admitted that specific fan reactions to the original film have directly influenced the sequel's narrative and dropped a few hints about what fans can expect.
"Everyone said [Kirk] is too young to become Captain," he explains, "So maybe in the next movie, somebody goes, 'Man, you sure became Captain young and fast.' You start to incorporate people's opinions... If it's organic to the story and you find someone who doesn't think too highly of Kirk because he maybe skipped a few steps, that's maybe a fun thing to consider. That comes from a fan reaction and maybe gives you a story point."
Rightfully proud of the 2009 film, Orci still recognizes that there were other issues with the project that didn't sit well with the entire fanbase and hopes that the sequel might offer a chance to rectify some of them.
"[Fans] wanted more character time with everybody," he adds, "and, because that was an origin story for 'Star Trek,' everyone had to come in at a certain point. Now everyone is going to be there from the beginning, so they're going to get that. Everyone sure hated engineering. They thought it looked like a brewery, which it was. I'll pass that on to J.J. [Abrams] and see what he says."
While the first draft of the script is complete, Orci's job is far from over and plans to be working on the sequel for some time to come.
"We'll be working and tweaking that story through shooting," he says, "This time we don't have a strike, so we'll actually be able to change things on the set. On the last movie, we handed in the script and that was it. You couldn't change a word. This one feels like we've got all the time in the world."
What a sad, stupid and ignorant explanation for the mess he put on screen. If I hear "it's an origin story" again anytime, for bad writing, it will be too soon. Only an idiot attempts give an origin for every character in one movie....
What a colossal fool.
Let's not go there, shall we?
I'm pretty sure that this would have been a directive from the executives who hired him, not something Orci came up with himself.
I see no danger or evidence of Roberto Orci or any of the other creative people involved in this new Star Trek taking the fans "too seriously". Wouldn't that be the antithesis of how they've handled it so far?
I also have serious doubts that ANY of these details have any real signifigance to the story of the film, otherwise why would anybody leak it so early? These are just fun and interesting thoughts they are having at this point.
That beautiful concept art they had developed for a nifty engineering in the last movie sure would be cool to see realized, but I do agree that it really doesn't make much difference either way.
It would be a complete reversal on their part, yes. But that means they are just playing around and the fans are as a whole not picking up on it.
For me they did a fine job on the first installment. I don't want them to louse it up now by trying to make a few vocal disgruntled fans happy.
My advice in a general sense would be to do the exact inverse of whatever fans claim they want. But that's just me.
But we can laugh at the angst-ridden comment, right?
Well, everyone got an outing and while the dialogue in general could have been more inspired and interesting, I have no problem with the amount of time devoted to each character. The manner of their introduction, especially in some cases, is another matter of course.
I have always wondered why people ask questions like that. (A) Its essentially an admission that the screenplay in question is pretty poor and (B): How is the complaining party’s abilities relevant, let alone a mitigating factor? If you take your car in for servicing and the mechanic stuffs it up in such a way that you break down the next day in the middle of nowhere, is the mechanic excused if you couldn’t have done a better job?
Only if you enjoy the misery and suffering of your fellow human beings. Otherwise what’s the point?
(but not necessarily in that order!)
I have always wondered why people ask questions like that. (A) Its essentially an admission that the screenplay in question is pretty poor and (B): How is the complaining party’s abilities relevant, let alone a mitigating factor? If you take your car in for servicing and the mechanic stuffs it up in such a way that you break down the next day in the middle of nowhere, is the mechanic excused if you couldn’t have done a better job?
Only if you enjoy the misery and suffering of your fellow human beings. Otherwise what’s the point?
(but not necessarily in that order!)
You can't compare a car to script writing. You at least have some idea of how a car works and can figure out where the problem lies.
Screenplays are different. It's an art form, its a form of expression, it's writing. People who want to be critical of a screen play and say that the person who wrote the script can't do their job and are piss poor at it then obviously knows how a screen play should be written and knows how to develop a story.
If you're going to bash the story, how would you make it better. Don't just bash the script and the writer without stating how you would approach the story and make it better. And no, Kirk having blue eyes isn't an element to make the script better.
Comments are fair game.
You know, I've seen tons of ideas on these very boards that would've made it a better film without abandoning the basics that Orci/Kurtzman set up.
I would've dumped Nero at the beginning, you can still give George Kirk a heroic death without it requiring the bad guy to wait around for twenty-five years for the meat of the picture.
Another poster, I think Kelso, came up with the idea of presenting Jim Kirk as a broken officer instead of a first time cadet. You'd have killed two birds with one stone by making that change... gotten rid of the poorly done Kobayashi Maru scenario and the cadet to captain non-sense.
I'm hoping alot of the problems in the first film were caused by being unable to do rewrites due to the writers strike.
