Roberto Orci Offers Star Trek 2 Update

[Pauln6]

As it at least better than Phase 2 or whatever it is? I can't sit through that thing without laughing my ass off or face-palming from extreme second hand embarrassment.

Maybe I don't understand the "core" of Trek appreciate it or whatever....

Fan created stuff tends to be cheesy but if you can look past that then it's great fun. The latest Phase II story, Enemy of Starfleet has just been released. I haven't seen it yet as my sound card is up the shaft but I'm sure it will be fun. The characters can be a bit cardboard, and the pacing tends to be a bit slower than in professionally produced episodes but many of the performances and special effects are creditable. Actually, considering these are just uber fans who make this stuff in their spare time, the quality is nothing short of astonishing.

It's really sweet to see the nerds plug the plot holes as they go too. I've always felt that nerds are an under-used resource. If each sci-fi show had a team of elite nerds on call the number of plot holes and canon violations would virtually vanish and they could be paid in nachos.

 

[BillJ]

Fan created stuff tends to be cheesy but if you can look past that then it's great fun. The latest Phase II story, Enemy of Starfleet has just been released.

I've seen Enemy: Starfleet! and found it enjoyable.

 

[Pauln6]

Cool. I should also say that I've watched quite a bit of professionally produced TV that was cheesier and less enjoyable than the Trek fan stuff. The Knight Rider remake... dreadful. Saw half an episode of Hawaii five o tonight... pretty cheesy and mediocre. Just about every movie on the UK Sci Fi channel. It might be that professional Trek has such high production values that the fan stuff could never hope to measure up by a like-for-like comparison. And the movies have such huge budgets that they are several notches above that again. My own little online comic story has really low production values and a plot that I'm making up as I go along!

 

[Merky]

Hawaii Five-O is like CSI:Miami. At least Horatio is meme-able. It's funny though, because that's another Bad Robot production.

I'll give them a chance but I doubt I can really get into it. Especially after the Rifftrax.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs3S9TDd6Bg[/yt]
lol

 

[JarodRussell]

Hawaii Five-O is like CSI:Miami. At least Horatio is meme-able. It's funny though, because that's another Bad Robot production.

CSI Miami is no Bad Robot production.

 

[Merky]

Hawaii Five-O is like CSI:Miami. At least Horatio is meme-able. It's funny though, because that's another Bad Robot production.

CSI Miami is no Bad Robot production.

I meant Hawaii-Five O

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Hawaii Five-O is like CSI:Miami. At least Horatio is meme-able. It's funny though, because that's another Bad Robot production.

CSI Miami is no Bad Robot production.

I meant Hawaii-Five O

Which is really really weird, because every time I watch Hawaii-Five O, if I'm not paying really close attention I could SWEAR I just finished an episode of CSI:Miami.

 

[number6]

I used to watch the original H5-0 religiously. This remake isn't really far off the mark.

 

[Rush Limborg]

^Except Kono's a girl, of course.

 

[number6]

So's Starbuck and Boomer, but NuBSG bears far less resemblance to the original than Nu 5-0.

 

[Pauln6]

Heh - yeah I never said the original was great either. Watching 70s and 80s TV you realise how we all had such low standards. Actually, there are quite a few shows in the sixties that are far better.

 

[number6]

Like the Prisoner. The remake was Gawd awful. What a waste.
I don't understand how they could have fucked it up as much as they did.

 

[JarodRussell]

CSI Miami is no Bad Robot production.

I meant Hawaii-Five O

Which is really really weird, because every time I watch Hawaii-Five O, if I'm not paying really close attention I could SWEAR I just finished an episode of CSI:Miami.

Just look at who produces the 5-0 remake. They haven't done anything original since they started their career.

 

[number6]

They must have really pissed in your bowl of Cheerios when you were young.

 

[Rush Limborg]

And...how does any of this involve Trek?

 

[JarodRussell]

Cowboys & Aliens... based on a comic. And then the first draft was written by other writers. Hawaii 5-0... based on Hawaii 5-0. Fringe... X-Files. Transformers... Transformers. Star Trek... Star Trek. Eagle Eye... Wargames and Enemy of the State. Mission Impossible... Misson Impossible, with a lot of elements borrowed from Alias. The Legend of Zorro... Zorro. The Island... oh, there it might be, but no, it's a remake of "The Clonus Horror". They didn't create Alias in 2001. But they did write "The Secret Service" in 2004: "A young secret service agent must balance her dangerous work life and her already fragile relationship with her family." The pilot wasn't picked up.

Awesome.

They might be good - which I disagree with - but they definately aren't doing anything original.

 

[number6]

So?
Seems like you've got an axe to grind. Care to share the reason? Did they kick your puppy? Did they gang rape your Cockatoo??
Did they diddle your Dingo?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What's truly funny is that the people who complain about the "unoriginality" of the nuTrek producers actually promote and extoll the virtues of Trek productions and merchandise on the basis of just how perfectly they copy previous Trek. "Originality" is not actually in demand among Trek purists, not at all.

 

[number6]

What's truly funny is that the people who complain about the "unoriginality" of the nuTrek producers actually promote and extoll the virtues of Trek productions and merchandise on the basis of just how perfectly they copy previous Trek. "Originality" is not actually in demand among Trek purists, not at all.

Are we talking about GR's homage to Forbidden Planet, or his pitch about Star Trek being Wagon Train to the Stars??

 

[JarodRussell]

Can anybody tell me why I should join the usual bitchfight with Dennis and number6 even though my comments about originality in Orci/Kurtzmans works were only directed at a quote made by newtype_alpha about the Hawaii 5-0 remake feeling/looking like CSI Miami, who hasn't responded because he probably rightfully thinks "I don't give a fuck"?