Rigel system

[Mysterion]

In one of the Rigel systems there is the Starbase 134 Integration Facility on Rigel VI, or so says the TNG Technical Manual (page 160). Any opions on whether this is Beta rigel or the other one?

 

[Stevil2001]

is rigel also home to the green skinned orions?

As I said in my first post, Role Play Game material placed the Orions at Rigel, but there is no canonical evidence of this and the modern Trek lit line has not made any references to Orions being native to Rigel either.

Man, it's all about Botchok!

 

[Deranged Nasat]

In one of the Rigel systems there is the Starbase 134 Integration Facility on Rigel VI, or so says the TNG Technical Manual (page 160). Any opions on whether this is Beta rigel or the other one?

I'd assume Beta Rigel. Star Charts seems to agree, mentioning this facility in its "Worlds of the Beta Quadrant" section, although much of the planetary data in Star Charts contradicts the novels.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I don't have my Star Charts book at hand. Are the Virgo stars coreward? From Sol, I mean.

Coreward and antispinward. You can find Mu Virginis on the Star Charts maps near the Romulan Neutral Zone, near Syrma (Iota Virginis). Also in that upper right quadrant, you can find plenty of other stars from Virgo.

Ah, yes, thank you. Now I've got it.

 

[Therin of Andor]

is rigel also home to the green skinned orions?

As I said in my first post, Role Play Game material placed the Orions at Rigel, but there is no canonical evidence of this and the modern Trek lit line has not made any references to Orions being native to Rigel either.

"Star Trek Maps" (1980) first speculated that the Orions and the Kaylar were from different planets orbiting Rigel, possibly because both races appeared in flashback scenes/illusions in "The Cage", but ENT established canonically that Orions definitely don't come from Rigel. It would be hard to be a supposedly neutral power engaging in slavery right under Starfleet's nose. However, the whole notion that the Rigel Colonies and the rest of Rigel's planets are teeming with a huge variety of sentient life, and that Orion slavers might visit regularly, to harvest humanoid slaves from there, still fits well.

Those FASA gaming materials suggested that Orions' green skin is just one of many hues. If I recall, it suggested that the pasty-faced male Orions of TAS ("Pirates of Orion") are so pale because they were confined to their vessels. However, I really loved what ENT did with the hulking big green male Orion slavers. Their outfits were great!

 

[Deranged Nasat]

"Star Trek Maps" (1980) first speculated that the Orions and the Kaylar were from different planets orbiting Rigel, possibly because both races appeared in flashback scenes/illusions in "The Cage", but ENT established canonically that Orions definitely don't come from Rigel. It would be hard to be a supposedly neutral power engaging in slavery right under Starfleet's nose. However, the whole notion that the Rigel Colonies and the rest of Rigel's planets are teeming with a huge variety of sentient life, and that Orion slavers might visit regularly, to harvest humanoid slaves from there, still fits well.?

Thanks, Therin! I was unaware of the "Maps" book. It does fit well. The ENT relaunch books also established that Orions use Rigel X as a slave trade outpost, prior to the Federation being formed. "Catalyst of Sorrows" also suggests old pirating families are still around in the 24th century, if now making a show of being "legit". With such a large population in-system, as you say, crime might be more of an issue than elsewhere in the Federation.

"Those FASA gaming materials suggested that Orions' green skin is just one of many hues. If I recall, it suggested that the pasty-faced male Orions of TAS ("Pirates of Orion") are so pale because they were confined to their vessels. However, I really loved what ENT did with the hulking big green male Orion slavers. Their outfits were great!

Interesting, thanks. I agree the ENT Orions were impressive. I liked the use of dull metallic implements as skin ornamentation.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Thanks, Therin! I was unaware of the "Maps" book. It does fit well.

"ST Maps", from Bantam, was a cardboard folder featuring two double-sided, folded maps and a slim booklet, "An Introduction to Navigation", and the booklet had brief descriptions of numerous star systems, with a focus on those systems mentioned in the Captain's Logs of the USS Enterprise.

It became quite a rare collectible after Bantam dumped most of the print run on remaindered books' tables. It was finished just as their license lapsed. I got mine for $4 in 1981, but within a few years they were going at ST convention auctions for $50+.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Thanks, Therin! I was unaware of the "Maps" book. It does fit well.

"ST Maps", from Bantam, was a cardboard folder featuring two double-sided, folded maps and a slim booklet, "An Introduction to Navigation", and the booklet had brief descriptions of numerous star systems, with a focus on those systems mentioned in the Captain's Logs of the USS Enterprise.

It was sort of the first run for the Star Charts, then?

 

[Therin of Andor]

It was sort of the first run for the Star Charts, then?

Yep, and Geoffrey Mandel worked on both.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_Maps

 

[Nerys Myk]

I wonder if the Rigel Colonies might actually span several systems. A confederation of worlds with Rigel as its capital.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I wonder if the Rigel Colonies might actually span several systems. A confederation of worlds with Rigel as its capital.

Ah, so "Rigel VI", for example, might not refer to the sixth planet in the system, as is usual, but might simply be the sixth planet colonized? This is an interesting idea. I think most sources imagine them as being part of one system, though.