Rick Berman on 76.5 Million Dollar Trek
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Who really cares what Berman thinks?[Shatner]"It's just a show!"[/Shatner] Seriously, get over the Rick Berman hate and move on in life. Hell, *GET A LIFE*.
Here I thought there would actually be a quote from the Rickster. Surprise!
I thought the same thing.
Except for the fact that Enterprise wasn't horrible.
You could make a case the first two seasons were slow, boring and uneven, but the last two season were far from horrible.
I saw them, yes they were. The whole premise was horrible which was the problem, and while the writing may have improved, they still had bland characters and Scott Bakula.
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The sort of style shown in Abram's ST would not be allowed in Berman's trek. He actually had a policy of homogenizing it as much as possible, probably to not damage the brand. Like the music, there was actually a mandate to not make the music stand out which is why that same generic droning music was there in every show. There was also a mandate to not make the aliens too alien.
Basically Berman is what happens when a non-creative is put in charge of creative.
Basically Berman is what happens when a non-creative is put in charge of creative.
Frankly, it's apples to oranges; the way they released films in the '70s and '80s is totally different from how it's done now; films rolled out to the theaters in a more gradual way, but they also stayed at the theater all summer. The opening weekend for Star Wars would look anemic compared to what Trek XI did this weekend, but it was the #1 movie from June through December 1977, despite never being on more than 1,100 screens at its peak. Yeah, Trek exploded onto nearly 4,000 screens and pulled in $76.5 million between Thursday and Sunday, but you'll be lucky if you can find it in a movie theater six weeks from now, and they'll be lucky if they do half of this weekend's business next weekend.
Damn! Beat me to it!
Frankly, I don't care what Berman thinks. I hope he's a good sport and is happy for the new team's success, but ultimately he's the past, and I'm more interested in focusing on the present and the future.
There was one theater in DC where you could see Star Wars for most of the summer of 1977 - the Uptown on Connecticut Avenue. Exclusive engagement.
I'm sure he's pleased for the success of the new film, and I'm also sure he'd be the first one to tell you that Nemesis suffered mostly from poor timing and the whole Star Trek franchise being stretched too thin.
I still maintain that Nemesis was not lacking in plot or performances. I think it was just the product of a franchise that desperately needed a break, and it never seemed like the people involved had their whole hearts in the thing.
I still maintain that Nemesis was not lacking in plot or performances. I think it was just the product of a franchise that desperately needed a break, and it never seemed like the people involved had their whole hearts in the thing.
Berman's probably smiling at all the "Enterprise" references in the new movie, from "Admiral Archer's beagle" to "Melvaran mud fleas."
Seriously, "Melvaran mud fleas"? The writers of this movie must have been big fans of "Enterprise" (which, by the way, is the only series left completely unaltered in this new timeline).
Seriously, "Melvaran mud fleas"? The writers of this movie must have been big fans of "Enterprise" (which, by the way, is the only series left completely unaltered in this new timeline).
I agree. Also, if we're all mature adults, we wouldn't keep harping on him as well.
Oversaturation, more than likely.
Damn, I liked Enterprise and I didn't remember the mud fleas. 
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