When the series first aired, that aspect of Pathfinder really annoyed me. I would have thought Barcley serving on the Enterprise would have given him some notoriety in the federation, but I guess not.
Rewatching Voyager
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When the series first aired, that aspect of Pathfinder really annoyed me. I would have thought Barcley serving on the Enterprise would have given him some notoriety in the federation, but I guess not.
Here's a wallpaper for INITIATIONS:
So the Kazon-Ogla seemed to be led by RAZIK in this episode (red guy on the left in my wallpaper).
But weren't they led by JABIN in Caretaker?
Or are there different factions within one and the same sect?
So the Kazon-Ogla seemed to be led by RAZIK in this episode (red guy on the left in my wallpaper).
But weren't they led by JABIN in Caretaker?
Or are there different factions within one and the same sect?
Here's a wallpaper for INITIATIONS:
So the Kazon-Ogla seemed to be led by RAZIK in this episode (red guy on the left in my wallpaper).
But weren't they led by JABIN in Caretaker?
Or are there different factions within one and the same sect?
Nice wallpaper.
I think the Kazon are just so spread out that there are different factions. Or Jabin was killed and Razik became first Maje.
Elogium
Not a fan of this episode at all. We've all talked about the Ocampa life span and that is the big issue, but there were other things which irked me, like Neelix being annoying, or Chakotay's about face regarding fraternization on the ship. When I wrote about Jetrel, I stood up for Neelix saying when he's serious, he's one of the better written characters on the show. This is taking it to the other extreme. The Doctor had every right to kick him out and Neelix just doesn't shut up. The only scene I liked him in was with Tuvok in the mess hall, which was a really great scene in this not so great episode. As for Chakotay, one minute he's wanting a policy about couples pairing off, and the next minute he's talking to Janeway about the possibility of having children. It's a nice subject to address in Voyager's situation, but come on. Also, the swarm outside was nothing special, but it looked really nice.
Not a fan of this episode at all. We've all talked about the Ocampa life span and that is the big issue, but there were other things which irked me, like Neelix being annoying, or Chakotay's about face regarding fraternization on the ship. When I wrote about Jetrel, I stood up for Neelix saying when he's serious, he's one of the better written characters on the show. This is taking it to the other extreme. The Doctor had every right to kick him out and Neelix just doesn't shut up. The only scene I liked him in was with Tuvok in the mess hall, which was a really great scene in this not so great episode. As for Chakotay, one minute he's wanting a policy about couples pairing off, and the next minute he's talking to Janeway about the possibility of having children. It's a nice subject to address in Voyager's situation, but come on. Also, the swarm outside was nothing special, but it looked really nice.
This is probably the weakest Kes episode but it's still a nice one.
I liked Kes's dialogue with the Doctor, which is later referenced in THE SWARM ("And there was a young woman. I was rubbing her feet. She was trying to decide whether or not to have a child."). Like you I thought that the dialogue between Tuvok and Neelix was interesting. As for the aliens, I found they really looked nice in the background when Janeway and Chakotay were discussing the situation.
The whole Naomi Wildman story starts in this episode and that was also why this was a good episode. And Tuvok's remark ("It appears we have lost our sex appeal, Captain.") and Janeway's sentence to Chakotay ("Good work, Commander. In the future, if I have any questions about mating behaviour, I'll know where to go.") were both very funny.
It would have been better than 7 dying. At least there was a built in story reason why. If there was one big missed opportunity it was not having Kes and 7 co-exist in the later seasons.
I loved Kes and Seven's brief interactions and always wished they'd had a chance to develop a sisterly relationship.
I also imagined that Kes would've died as Voyager reached Earth - possibly ascending to a higher being instead of true death. Possibly her "death" would occur at the same time B'Elanna's baby was born, although I have no idea if tptb planned the baby that far in advance.
Either way I'm still bitter that Kes was fired so early and that tptb lost interest in a character that I still find interesting, that they didn't use her well for so much of the time she was there. I feel that she wasn't valued in part because she was so gentle and feminine, and tptb couldn't deal with a character who could be so gentle and still be competent and strong.
I also imagined that Kes would've died as Voyager reached Earth - possibly ascending to a higher being instead of true death. Possibly her "death" would occur at the same time B'Elanna's baby was born, although I have no idea if tptb planned the baby that far in advance.
Either way I'm still bitter that Kes was fired so early and that tptb lost interest in a character that I still find interesting, that they didn't use her well for so much of the time she was there. I feel that she wasn't valued in part because she was so gentle and feminine, and tptb couldn't deal with a character who could be so gentle and still be competent and strong.
Non Sequitar
The more I watch this episode the more I really like it. Kim is great here, waking up in an alternate reality, seeing it's not right and wanting to go back. It's a nice mystery that shows what life would be like if he wasn't on Voyager. Also liked seeing bad boy Paris here. The only thing I didn't like was the actress who played Libby. She was kind of annoying.
The more I watch this episode the more I really like it. Kim is great here, waking up in an alternate reality, seeing it's not right and wanting to go back. It's a nice mystery that shows what life would be like if he wasn't on Voyager. Also liked seeing bad boy Paris here. The only thing I didn't like was the actress who played Libby. She was kind of annoying.
For me, this episode is a kind of FUTURE'S END. Only this time, it's Harry who comes back - not the entire crew.
I find it interesting the alien(s) thought that Harry, or anyone for that matter, would choose this kind of life. I mean I understand that being at home and forgetting about the whole Delta Quadrant thing might seem appealing - but honestly wouldn't you feel you don't belong there? I guess anyone who'd choose staying on Earth in this situation would start feeling after a while that something is just not "right" with their life. The logical course of action would be to go back - no matter how dangerous it would be.
So Harry makes the right decision - no doubt this is the minimum we expect from our forever ensign ...
This episode is like the inverse of the DS9 episode Whispers. O'Brien thought everything around him was wrong but he was the one out of place. Harry Knew he was the one out of place.
I like the concept of this episode. I like seeing how Tom might have turned out if he hadn't gotten on Voyager...I just wish there had been a stronger pull for Harry to stay...that he might have been a bit more conflicted about it.
They could have had him meet up with Admiral Paris. That could have been interesting.
I like the concept of this episode. I like seeing how Tom might have turned out if he hadn't gotten on Voyager...I just wish there had been a stronger pull for Harry to stay...that he might have been a bit more conflicted about it.
They could have had him meet up with Admiral Paris. That could have been interesting.
For me, this episode is a kind of FUTURE'S END. Only this time, it's Harry who comes back - not the entire crew.
I find it interesting the alien(s) thought that Harry, or anyone for that matter, would choose this kind of life. I mean I understand that being at home and forgetting about the whole Delta Quadrant thing might seem appealing - but honestly wouldn't you feel you don't belong there? I guess anyone who'd choose staying on Earth in this situation would start feeling after a while that something is just not "right" with their life. The logical course of action would be to go back - no matter how dangerous it would be.
So Harry makes the right decision - no doubt this is the minimum we expect from our forever ensign ...
I think the thing I loved about this episode this time around was his relationship of Paris. Harry knew he didn't belong because Tom didn't belong, especially when he's trying to get his life back on track. That's a good friend right there.
And as a gay man I like to read a little more into this than just mere frindship, LOL!
So when are you starting TWISTED? I love that episode - even though it's Robert Picardo's pet peeve ...
And as a gay man I like to read a little more into this than just mere frindship, LOL!
So when are you starting TWISTED? I love that episode - even though it's Robert Picardo's pet peeve ...
I might tonight. I've also been doing a rewatch of TAS and I've got 3 episodes left of that series. Twisted is a good episode.
Here's a little incentive (of all my pics, this is my fav Kes wallpaper):
Nice picture @Thomas Eugene
Twisted
There are good things and bad things about this episode. I loved the eeriness of the ship converging in on itself. It was nice, albeit a little long, to see the crew being lost and I really liked the use of Sandrines as a central area for this episode. I wished the episode dogged deeper in the array communicating with the ship though because I too wonder what was downloaded. Also, this is kind of the start of Neelix being jealous of Tom and Kes being together. Like I said, Neelix is kind of inconsistent in the early going.
Twisted
There are good things and bad things about this episode. I loved the eeriness of the ship converging in on itself. It was nice, albeit a little long, to see the crew being lost and I really liked the use of Sandrines as a central area for this episode. I wished the episode dogged deeper in the array communicating with the ship though because I too wonder what was downloaded. Also, this is kind of the start of Neelix being jealous of Tom and Kes being together. Like I said, Neelix is kind of inconsistent in the early going.
Purturition
Ah yes, the episode where the Neelix/Paris conflict comes to an end. I hated this storyline. Part of it was because Neelix being overly jealous didn't feel deserved, and another part was because for these few episodes, the show was starting to feel soap operaish. What was this, Voyager or Days of our Lives? In terms of not being deserved, the Neelix/Kes relationship has never really worked as a whole. I mean we are told they love each other but we are never shown exactly why. We see Neelix save Kes from the Kazon, but we know that Kes is pretty resourceful and was fortunate that Voyager showed up when they did. We are never told when they met, or how they hit it off. We are pretty much thrown into it and I think the most genuine part of it was when Kes, as the Warlord, broke up with him.
Anyway, in terms of the rest of the episode, it was ok. This was another "Let's have fun with Janeway's hair" episode they did in the early seasons. The first being Heroes and Demons, but here she went to the Season 5 look. Makes me wonder if Janeway just never aged on the show. Mulgrew looks noticeably older (Yes, that is obvious, but one could say Patrick Stewart doesn't age) in Orange is the New Black and various interviews. Of course it was only three years so that makes some sense. I've always loved the season 5 look, even though the Pony Tail look is my favorite. The Alien kid looked adorable, too.
Ah yes, the episode where the Neelix/Paris conflict comes to an end. I hated this storyline. Part of it was because Neelix being overly jealous didn't feel deserved, and another part was because for these few episodes, the show was starting to feel soap operaish. What was this, Voyager or Days of our Lives? In terms of not being deserved, the Neelix/Kes relationship has never really worked as a whole. I mean we are told they love each other but we are never shown exactly why. We see Neelix save Kes from the Kazon, but we know that Kes is pretty resourceful and was fortunate that Voyager showed up when they did. We are never told when they met, or how they hit it off. We are pretty much thrown into it and I think the most genuine part of it was when Kes, as the Warlord, broke up with him.
Anyway, in terms of the rest of the episode, it was ok. This was another "Let's have fun with Janeway's hair" episode they did in the early seasons. The first being Heroes and Demons, but here she went to the Season 5 look. Makes me wonder if Janeway just never aged on the show. Mulgrew looks noticeably older (Yes, that is obvious, but one could say Patrick Stewart doesn't age) in Orange is the New Black and various interviews. Of course it was only three years so that makes some sense. I've always loved the season 5 look, even though the Pony Tail look is my favorite. The Alien kid looked adorable, too.
Nice picture @Thomas Eugene
Thanks. Here's another one - this time with the love of my life, LOL!
I love this episode (surprise, surprise). There is genuine love among the characters here (not in the romantic sense of the word).
Plus, there's a lot of humour. When Janeway's looking at both Tom and Neelix after their fight in the canteen, it's a gem! Also, I love how Tom admits at the end of the episode to Neelix how he feels about Kes. Even better when he says that he hopes this unexpected journey to the Delta Quadrant gives him a chance to be different from what he used to be. You can also see on Neelix's face that he understands him perfectly - this journey has also changed him to a certain extent.
I wonder if the alien at the end of the ep is the creature's father or mother ... difficult to say really ... any idea, anyone?
Today, I re-watched Memorial (6x14). An episode which allies intelligently humor and emotion and where some characters act differently (Harry who loses his temper & Chakotay who is usually so sensitive to the duty of remembrance, wants that the memorial be shut down).
And then, there is Neelix who is really moving in this episode. Maybe because he himself (like his family andthen entire population of his planet were killed in a war) is against shutting the memorail down. I think that he understands fully why the monument was made and is very much in favor of keeping it running, to ensure the victims' story is never forgotten and that is how people will learn not to let such a thing happen. He even dares to contradict Tuvok in a rather violent way (what proves that it really meant a lot to him), about the fact that logic thing is irrelevant here, it's about remembering.
And finally, there is Janeway who reminds to all (including to us, simple viewers) that monuments have been built in memoriam of tragedies. These Memorials are honored, as this one should be.
Yep, it was a very nice story and much to my surprise, it was written by Brannon Braga!
And then, there is Neelix who is really moving in this episode. Maybe because he himself (like his family andthen entire population of his planet were killed in a war) is against shutting the memorail down. I think that he understands fully why the monument was made and is very much in favor of keeping it running, to ensure the victims' story is never forgotten and that is how people will learn not to let such a thing happen. He even dares to contradict Tuvok in a rather violent way (what proves that it really meant a lot to him), about the fact that logic thing is irrelevant here, it's about remembering.
And finally, there is Janeway who reminds to all (including to us, simple viewers) that monuments have been built in memoriam of tragedies. These Memorials are honored, as this one should be.
Yep, it was a very nice story and much to my surprise, it was written by Brannon Braga!
Persistence of Vision
This felt like two episodes in one. The first part of the episode was Janeway having weird hellucinations. It gave the episode a very suspenseful and eerie feeling. Unfortunately the second part of the episode made everyone feel that way and the show lost its impact. This could have been a strong Janeway story but it sacrificed that with the ship in danger plot. Despite that though, it's not a bad episode. In fact, I appreciated Kes saving the ship and burning fake Neelix in the process. I think it would have been better if Janeway was the one saving the ship though. Also, I wish we had learned more about this race instead of the cop out we're not really here stuff.
This felt like two episodes in one. The first part of the episode was Janeway having weird hellucinations. It gave the episode a very suspenseful and eerie feeling. Unfortunately the second part of the episode made everyone feel that way and the show lost its impact. This could have been a strong Janeway story but it sacrificed that with the ship in danger plot. Despite that though, it's not a bad episode. In fact, I appreciated Kes saving the ship and burning fake Neelix in the process. I think it would have been better if Janeway was the one saving the ship though. Also, I wish we had learned more about this race instead of the cop out we're not really here stuff.
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