Rewatching Star Trek For the 50th Anniversary

[tomalak301]

For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched The Sky

First off, I think Season 3 has some of the best titles in Star Trek. I mean Spectre of the Gun, Day of the Dove, For the World is Hollow..., and there's more interesting titles to come. All these titles are just really creative, and it's one of the things I do like about Season 3.

As for this episode, man I was hoping for a better episode with a title like that. It isn't bad, but it was a little slow and boring. The relationship between Natira and McCoy kind of fell flat, and Natira came off as another one dimensional character following a computer. I got the message of censorship and not having the freedom of speech, but Natira could have been a much more interesting character. I did like the optimistic ending though, with the Astroid back on it's main course, and the cure that McCoy needed was just in the right place at the right time. I know they don't do story arcs, but him living with this illness for a while would have been interesting.

 

[tomalak301]

The Tholian Web

I think this episode became better with In A Mirror, Darkly from Enterprise. Having that serve as a sequel of sorts made this story feel a little more complete than what was aired. In that sense I really enjoyed this episode. As always Nimoy and Kelly play off each other really well and while it looked better in the Enteeprise episodes, I love the concept of the Web. It was a tad too easy for the Enteeprise to escape it though.

 

[Trekfan12]

The Tholian Web

I think this episode became better with In A Mirror, Darkly from Enterprise. Having that serve as a sequel of sorts made this story feel a little more complete than what was aired. In that sense I really enjoyed this episode. As always Nimoy and Kelly play off each other really well and while it looked better in the Enteeprise episodes, I love the concept of the Web. It was a tad too easy for the Enteeprise to escape it though.

This episode, and That Which Survives, are the few times Spock was in command and showed what an able commander he was. nothing rattled him, including McCoy

 

[tomalak301]

Plato's Stepchildren

I was dreading when this episode came up because I remember the last time I saw it, it really angered me. I watched it tonight, and I still angers me. For one, I don't appreciate watching the crew be humiliated all episode, but then we get to the end and the resolution is basically, "Don't do it again". I honestly think they should have let Alexander murder Parmen. For what they did to him, to the Enterprise crew, there was no justice here. Maybe killing them was too strong, but there should have been something. Maybe even putting a warning bouy around the planet warning ships to stay away, and keep the distance far enough where the powers won't affect them.

This episode isn't worse than And the Children Shall Lead, but it is probably my second or third least favorite episode of the series. I still remember By Any Other Name angering me too, so maybe it's my third least favorite. This episode makes me long for another Spocks Brain type episode.

 

[tomalak301]

Wink of an Eye

I liked the premise of this episode but the execution was not all there. It was kind of a boring, there, episode. Also, I'm starting to see the whole Kirk getting the girl thing this season, more than the previous seasons. I think this episode featured the first red shirt death in a while though. I haven't noticed that very much this season.

 

[Trekfan12]

I saw Space Seed on METV last night. I hadn't watched it in a long time. What struck me as very odd was why Khan had access to what should have been classified information. Spock calmly told Kirk that he was making good use of the library computer to find out how the ship runs. I mean if I went to a website to find out how an aircraft carrier ran or nuclear sub I certainly wouldn't have access to detailed information on the engines, vulnerable areas.
When Kirk said he should catch up about technology over the centuries and how things run he didn't mean how to disable the Enterprise.
Khan was a stranger, they couldn't find out detailed info on the man and suddenly he has access to how the Enterprise works and how you could take the ship over. He shouldn't have been able to access any of that info. It means anyone could come on the ship, go on the computer and tip toe through the systems and find out whatever they wanted.

There should have been control on what he had access to and what was classfied. In the eps Court Martial and Menagerie when asked who had access to certain areas of the computer It was Kirk, Spock and Finney (Court Martial) and in Menagerie Spock was one person who could manipulate the computer.

 

[tomalak301]

The Empath

This episode was interesting. I liked the atmosphere of the dark and quiet room and Gem was an intriguing character for the most part. It was kind of slow in parts but the message of self sacrifice made the episode worth it.

Elaan of Troyius

Elaan was annoying but I liked Kirk's reactions to her. Kind of had a du ex machine ending though with the necklace and Kirk already being in love with the Enterprise. Another episode that wasn't bad, just nothing special.

 

[tomalak301]

Whom Gods Destroy

This is such a great episode. Loved "LORD" Garth, and watching those people just be crazy was purely entertaining. Also loved Spock's logical determination as to which one was the real Kirk and Kirk's reaction to it was priceless.

That last few episodes have been from just "there" to boring. This episode I would say is one of the Season's better ones. At least it was reasonably entertaining.

 

[Trekfan12]

Whom Gods Destroy

This is such a great episode. Loved "LORD" Garth, and watching those people just be crazy was purely entertaining. Also loved Spock's logical determination as to which one was the real Kirk and Kirk's reaction to it was priceless.

That last few episodes have been from just "there" to boring. This episode I would say is one of the Season's better ones. At least it was reasonably entertaining.

I liked when Kirk talks to him about how his ideals made him and Mr. Spock brothers. I also liked how Spock determined which Kirk was the real one at then end

 

[Pauln6]

I wish Cumberbatch had played Garth in ST:ID. They look similar and Garth's alien juju could have given him magic blood at the price of altering his brain chemistry and going progressively ga ga. Double-edged sword for Kirk - just how ga ga is he going to get? Maybe some nerds can re-dub the dialogue. GAAAAARTH!!!

 

[tomalak301]

I wish Cumberbatch had played Garth in ST:ID. They look similar and Garth's alien juju could have given him magic blood at the price of altering his brain chemistry and going progressively ga ga. Double-edged sword for Kirk - just how ga ga is he going to get? Maybe some nerds can re-dub the dialogue. GAAAAARTH!!!

Oh man Lord Garth in Into Darkness would have made that movie so much better.

 

[tomalak301]

Let That Be Your Last Battlefield

This episode was a little heavy handed, but it's very timely. You can see this episode not just from a race relations thing, but also politically, democrat vs republican, Liberal vs. Conservative. There's just so much hate in the world that Spock is right, it doesn't make sense and it's not logical. As heavy handed as this episode is, I think it's a very important episode, and one of the highlights of the third season.

 

[tomalak301]

The Mark of Gideon

This episode was a little boring. Also, it's implausible that they would build an enterprise on an over populated planet. Having the people on the view screen was a little creepy though.

 

[RAMA]

Ah the third season...Plato's Stepchildren.

Well this one is pretty awful. When I was younger if I tried showing an episode to someone on tv, too often this one was airing. I was happy we finally got a vcr.

Firstly..Greek mythology again?

If you were to believe TOS, anyone with any kind of supra-human ability is dangerous and corrupted. Mind powers? Genetic engineering, etc. Telekinetics: sadistic.

This episode has two things of note other than it's awfulness:

The supposed first interracial kiss. Which was nothing of the kind.

It was banned for a decade and a half by the BBC for sadism.

Plato's Stepchildren

I was dreading when this episode came up because I remember the last time I saw it, it really angered me. I watched it tonight, and I still angers me. For one, I don't appreciate watching the crew be humiliated all episode, but then we get to the end and the resolution is basically, "Don't do it again". I honestly think they should have let Alexander murder Parmen. For what they did to him, to the Enterprise crew, there was no justice here. Maybe killing them was too strong, but there should have been something. Maybe even putting a warning bouy around the planet warning ships to stay away, and keep the distance far enough where the powers won't affect them.

This episode isn't worse than And the Children Shall Lead, but it is probably my second or third least favorite episode of the series. I still remember By Any Other Name angering me too, so maybe it's my third least favorite. This episode makes me long for another Spocks Brain type episode.

Whom Gods Destroy

This is such a great episode. Loved "LORD" Garth, and watching those people just be crazy was purely entertaining. Also loved Spock's logical determination as to which one was the real Kirk and Kirk's reaction to it was priceless.

That last few episodes have been from just "there" to boring. This episode I would say is one of the Season's better ones. At least it was reasonably entertaining.

This episode was so campy it made Batman look tame by comparison. It's too bad when Star Trek shows us a formerly famous or dignified commander they turn out to be incompetent, evil or insane. Yet Captain Garth was interesting enough to spawn fan speculation of the character in the 70s and 80s and Prelude to Axanar.

 

[RAMA]

I saw Space Seed on METV last night. I hadn't watched it in a long time. What struck me as very odd was why Khan had access to what should have been classified information. Spock calmly told Kirk that he was making good use of the library computer to find out how the ship runs. I mean if I went to a website to find out how an aircraft carrier ran or nuclear sub I certainly wouldn't have access to detailed information on the engines, vulnerable areas.
When Kirk said he should catch up about technology over the centuries and how things run he didn't mean how to disable the Enterprise.
Khan was a stranger, they couldn't find out detailed info on the man and suddenly he has access to how the Enterprise works and how you could take the ship over. He shouldn't have been able to access any of that info. It means anyone could come on the ship, go on the computer and tip toe through the systems and find out whatever they wanted.

There should have been control on what he had access to and what was classfied. In the eps Court Martial and Menagerie when asked who had access to certain areas of the computer It was Kirk, Spock and Finney (Court Martial) and in Menagerie Spock was one person who could manipulate the computer.

Khan should have been able to look at Facebook and Twitter, CNN and nothing more. The only explanation...he used his super fast brain to come up to speed to hack the computer.

 

[tomalak301]

@RAMA et el

What was it with Star Trek and greek mythology. Seemed like there was quite a few episodes that were based off of Greek (or Roman) mythology.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Balance of Terror

Still a classic episode 50 years later.

As someone who was too young to see TOS originally but saw it in syndicated reruns in the 1970s, I have a question for anyone who saw BoT when originally aired.

When what Romulans look like is revealed and Stiles (and others) turn and look at Spock (as well as Stiles's behavior towards Spock from that point on in the episode), was there any thinking that there could be some twist and that Spock had some sort of Romulan connection and that Stiles's behavior may not be unjustified?

Certainly by the 1970s there had been enough cultural osmosis that it would be literally inconceivable that Spock could be a sleeper agent. But I've always wondered about how that was perceived at original airing.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Tomorrow is Yesterday

This episode is still fun, and knowing that it was supposed to tie into The Naked Time makes me wish they had actually done that.

It was? Do you have more details on that?

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Mirror, Mirror

I'd say this is a top 5 episode of the series. It might even be my favorite when all is said and done. I loved how fully realized the mirror universe was, from the rising in rank through assassination, to the agony booth.

And Nichelle Nichols in that uniform. And that torso. (Shallow me!)

 

[tomalak301]

It was? Do you have more details on that?

Someone mentioned it at the beginning of this thread. The reason for the ship moving back I. Time was supposed to be the reason the ship was in the 1960s.