Rewatch: Learning Curve

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

There is nothing to clean though, it is the future and everything self cleans.

OH WAIT OH MY GOD...

Orderly.

I will be the permanent powder room (so much nicer a term) orderly for Captain Janeway, always ready with the fresh towels and hand soap choices. I will just stand there all day waiting for her to use the facilities and then extend my tray of little toiletries and soaps for her to pick from.

But I don't think I will be able to hear anything, I doubt water is used in the actual toilet.

 

[Melakon]

If it's anything like Waste Extraction on Ferengi ships, it might be a bit noisy I guess with the vacuum sensors.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Well that's not exactly what I meant by "hear anything".

It will all be sanitized and silent. It's Starfleet. People were probably panicking on the Basics planet when they realized they would have to take a dump on the ground behind rocks and no sonic butt cleaning and..

 

[Melakon]

Obviously they don't use toilet paper in the Star Trek universe, since that would mean the destruction of trees, so what are they using? Bidets, three sea shells, corn cobs? On Voyager with its replicator restrictions, maybe this is what leola roots are actually intended for, since Neelix seems to have a shitload of them aboard.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I think it makes sense that the Maquis were willing to put on the uniform and serve in the crew, just out of practical necessity. They may not like Starfleet but they're allies by default, so they have to work together. However it should have taken more than one gesture by Tuvok to get them to be willing to follow the rules and Starfleet should have been forced to deal with the fact that these are basically civilians forced into this situation.

Another great Laura Roslin moment:
Talking to Adama and Cain: "We have to find a way to work together!"
(Cain leaves the room)
Talking to Adama: "We have to kill her."

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think it makes sense that the Maquis were willing to put on the uniform and serve in the crew, just out of practical necessity. They may not like Starfleet but they're allies by default, so they have to work together. However it should have taken more than one gesture by Tuvok to get them to be willing to follow the rules and Starfleet should have been forced to deal with the fact that these are basically civilians forced into this situation.

I would never have caved!! I would have worked hard on the ship of course, but no I am not joining starfleet.

Another great Laura Roslin moment:
Talking to Adama and Cain: "We have to find a way to work together!"
(Cain leaves the room)
Talking to Adama: "We have to kill her."

aaaaahahaha yes.

 

[MacLeod]

I deeply admire Laura Roslin.

"If I want to throw a baby out an airlock I'll do it. " President Laura Roslin

Best. Quote. Ever.

But Janeway wouldn't airlock me (and this line of discussion is all about me) just for saying no, not gonna starfleet it up. She was pushed to her absolute edge threatening Ransom, but I'm not going to be challenging to her like that. I am weak and small and I'm just going to be deeply irritating to her for the .5 seconds she is forced to think about me because Tuvok brought my intransigence to her attention.

No I would not put on the starfleet uniform. I would not be ex-starfleet in the first place, I would just be a pissed off Maquis settler, probably ended up out there in that shithole DMZ because I saw it as less of a controlled environment than a Federation planet. And now what, you want me to embrace everything I was trying to get away from, the actual space cops?! No, just no.

I expect I'd end up doing really unpleasant work which she would have someone around me supervising because I might be a loose cannon until she decided that wasting an actual officer on supervising me was dumb and I had learned my lesson. Then if I was super lucky Neelix would be put in charge of me and I would get to peel vegetables and cook stuff which would make me happy.

Would there be some ongoing sanctions against me? Less rations, less freedom? Was it a real choice whether they put on the starfleet uniform?

I suppose the alternative would be either leaving the ship.

 

[Makarov]

Laura Roslin was all bark and no bite... evidenced by many of her interactions with Baltar. Janeway is much more threatening - if she feels like stranding you in the delta quadrant, she'll do it.

 

[erastus25]

The last line of this one...just...terrible.