Retroactively hate the reboot after SW:TFA

[Imperator Rom]

I think SW: TFA really crystalized for me what I disliked about the Star Trek reboot. I was one of the big defenders of the original reboot. Thought Into Darkness was in many ways total cheese and plagiaristic but had its moments.

After watching SW:TFA, it hit me: JJ Abrams has no empathy. He had no problem destroying Romulus and Vulcan, Star Trek mainstays, in the first movie. At least we kind of cared though. No one cared that he destroyed San Francisco in the second movie. In TFA, he destroyed the "Republic" and the "Republic fleet" without so much as batting an eye. Its sacrilege and the characters don't seem to care. Reminds me of a pointless Tarantino murder scene, gratuitous.

In addition, his scifi understanding is beyond belief. Its not scifi, its not even logical and consistent within its own universe. Sun weapons. Transporters across the galaxy. Light beams visible from millions of miles away. Eternal life blood. Again...sacrilege, but also cheap and gratuitous.

Finally, plagiarism. Too obvious.

Oh, and the FUBAR'd post-Romulus Romulans that act like Hobbits in Star Trek Online really brought all this home. I'm so glad Abrams is gone from Star Trek...before he wipes out the Federation smh

 

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[fireproof78]

I think SW: TFA really crystalized for me what I disliked about the Star Trek reboot. I was one of the big defenders of the original reboot. Thought Into Darkness was in many ways total cheese and plagiaristic but had its moments.

After watching SW:TFA, it hit me: JJ Abrams has no empathy. He had no problem destroying Romulus and Vulcan, Star Trek mainstays, in the first movie. At least we kind of cared though. No one cared that he destroyed San Francisco in the second movie. In TFA, he destroyed the "Republic" and the "Republic fleet" without so much as batting an eye. Its sacrilege and the characters don't seem to care. Reminds me of a pointless Tarantino murder scene, gratuitous.

In addition, his scifi understanding is beyond belief. Its not scifi, its not even logical and consistent within its own universe. Sun weapons. Transporters across the galaxy. Light beams visible from millions of miles away. Eternal life blood. Again...sacrilege, but also cheap and gratuitous.

Finally, plagiarism. Too obvious.

Oh, and the FUBAR'd post-Romulus Romulans that act like Hobbits in Star Trek Online really brought all this home. I'm so glad Abrams is gone from Star Trek...before he wipes out the Federation smh

If Abrams is guilty of this, then so are many other directors of major films in the past decade. Man of Steel often gets pointed at, but there are many films that destroy entire cities with little more than shrug in the face of massive destruction.

So, as much as I am annoyed by the Republic's destruction in TFA, I don't think it shows anything about Abrams empathy or lack thereof.

As for the rest, sacrilege and plagiarism are too strong of words for me, given the fact that we have seen a wide variety of technology in both universes that really strain belief in a scifi setting. Though, Star Wars doesn't really count since it isn't science fiction in the same way that Star Trek is.

tl:dr-Disagree.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I loved his Trek movies and The Force Awakens. Lovable characters on exciting adventures. As for the science, I have never watched Trek for realism. The transporter is a cool gizmo that once split Kirk into good and evil halves. If they want to give it an extreme-range mod, IMHO they can.

 

[M'Sharak]

I think SW: TFA really crystalized for me what I disliked about the Star Trek reboot. I was one of the big defenders of the original reboot. Thought Into Darkness was in many ways total cheese and plagiaristic but had its moments.

After watching SW:TFA, it hit me: JJ Abrams has no empathy. He had no problem destroying Romulus and Vulcan, Star Trek mainstays, in the first movie. At least we kind of cared though. No one cared that he destroyed San Francisco in the second movie. In TFA, he destroyed the "Republic" and the "Republic fleet" without so much as batting an eye. Its sacrilege and the characters don't seem to care. Reminds me of a pointless Tarantino murder scene, gratuitous.

In addition, his scifi understanding is beyond belief. Its not scifi, its not even logical and consistent within its own universe. Sun weapons. Transporters across the galaxy. Light beams visible from millions of miles away. Eternal life blood. Again...sacrilege, but also cheap and gratuitous.

Finally, plagiarism. Too obvious.

Oh, and the FUBAR'd post-Romulus Romulans that act like Hobbits in Star Trek Online really brought all this home. I'm so glad Abrams is gone from Star Trek...before he wipes out the Federation smh

Closing because—other than the statement "Retroactively hate the reboot after SW:TFA" given in the subject line—there's not really a clear topic here.

It's more a self-contained blog entry—beginning and ending within the same post—than it is the start of a discussion thread, and a good part of it isn't about the Star Trek movies at all.