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Retro-casting superhero films and shows

1960's Marvel Comic Cosmos Phase 1

1962: MGM presents: Fantastic Four The Motion Picture
Directed by Robert Wise

Reed Richards/Mr Fantastic: Richard Burton
Sue Storm/Invisible Girl: Natalie Wood
Johnny Storm/Human Torch: Paul Newman
Ben Grimm/The Thing: Steve Reeves
Dr Doom: Maximilian Schell

1963: The Incredible Hulk

Bruce Banner/The Hulk: Marlon Brando/ Reg Park
The Leader: Vincent Price

1964: Captain America

Steve Rogers: Steve McQueen (seriously.. anyone else?)
Baron Zemo: Christopher Lee

1965: Iron Man: The First Avenger
Tony Stark/Iron Man: Anthony Quinn
Justin Hammer: William Holden
Justine Hammer: Audrey Hepburn

someone else can do phase 2. In a world that was a bit better than the one we got, Bruce Lee as Spiderman.

1966: The Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man: Kurt Russell (or maybe Tommy Kiirk)
Mary Jane Watson: Sally Field
J Jonah Jameson: Keenan Wynn


The Chameleon: David McCallum
 
1980s Spider-Man directed by Robert Zemeckis
Peter Parker- Michael J Fox
Betty Brant- Lea Thompson
Liz Allen- Elizabeth Shue
Flash Thompson-Thomas F Wilson-
J. Jonah Jameson-James Tolkan
The Tinkerer-Christopher Lloyd
 
1980s Spider-Man directed by Robert Zemeckis
Peter Parker- Michael J Fox
Betty Brant- Lea Thompson
Liz Allen- Elizabeth Shue
Flash Thompson-Thomas F Wilson-
J. Jonah Jameson-James Tolkan
The Tinkerer-Christopher Lloyd
Nailed it. Of course this reminds me of another film that I can't quite put my finger on.
 
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X-Men
Tony Perkins- Slim Summers
Ann-Margret- Jean Grey
Troy Donahue- Warren Worthington, III
Ricky Nelson-Bobby Drake
?-Henry McCoy
and
Yule Brynner as Professor X
with
Michael Rennie- Eric Lensherr
Natalie Wood- Wanda Maximoff
James Dean-Pietro Maximoff
Vincent Price- Jason Wyngard
Marty Feldman-Mortimer Toynbee
 
Here's what I came up with for the original FF and Avengers:

Fantastic Four

Mr Fantastic - Russell Johnson
Invisible Girl - Donna Douglas
Thing - Gary Lockwood
Human Torch - Johnny Crawford
Doctor Doom - Robert Wagner

Avengers

Iron Man - Guy Williams
Thor - Peter Lupus (in a wig)
Giant Man - Gary Conway (with a dye job)
Wasp - Stephanie Powers
Hulk/Banner - Andre the Giant (in greenface)/Bill Bixby

The X-Men were a little harder, because most of them are so young:

X-Men

Professor X - Yul Brunner
Cyclops - Kent McCord
Beast - ?
Angel - ?
Iceman - ?
Marvel Girl - Lori Saunders (in a wig)
Magneto - Richard Boone (with a dye job)

X-Men
Ricky Nelson-Bobby Drake
I was kind of thinking about him for Angel, but I dunno.
 
1940s Batman
Batman: Cary Grant
Catwoman: Ingrid Bergman
The Joker: Louis Jordan
Penguin: Sydney Greenstreet
The Riddler: Orson Wells
Two-Face: James Cagney
 
Here's what I came up with for the original FF and Avengers:

Fantastic Four

Mr Fantastic - Russell Johnson
Invisible Girl - Donna Douglas
Thing - Gary Lockwood
Human Torch - Johnny Crawford
Doctor Doom - Robert Wagner

Avengers

Iron Man - Guy Williams
Thor - Peter Lupus (in a wig)
Giant Man - Gary Conway (with a dye job)
Wasp - Stephanie Powers
Hulk/Banner - Andre the Giant (in greenface)/Bill Bixby

The X-Men were a little harder, because most of them are so young:

X-Men

Professor X - Yul Brunner
Cyclops - Kent McCord
Beast - ?
Angel - ?
Iceman - ?
Marvel Girl - Lori Saunders (in a wig)
Magneto - Richard Boone (with a dye job)


I was kind of thinking about him for Angel, but I dunno.
Dude, Kent McCord is the perfect Cyclops! If you're gonna go with that, why not Kevin Tighe as Beast?
 
1940s Batman
Batman: Cary Grant

What about Robin? Remember, before the '70s or '80s, Batman and Robin were an inseparable duo. You never would've seen a '40s Batman without Robin by his side.


Penguin: Sydney Greenstreet

Penguin was originally depicted as a small, comical man, suggestive of his namesake. A small, dapper comedy star might be a better choice. Harold Lloyd? Jack Benny? Bob Hope had the nose for it. Height aside, Oliver Hardy might've been good.


The Riddler: Orson Wells

I believe the Riddler was originally modeled on Fred Astaire.


Two-Face: James Cagney

I don't know... Two-Face was supposed to be a handsome, heroic DA who was horribly scarred and broken. It calls more for a leading-man type capable of darker character roles. Fred MacMurray? Who better for Two-Face than the star of Double Indemnity?
 
“Leading man capable of darker character roles” sounds like a perfect description of Cagney, though he admittedly wasn’t a classically handsome leading man.
 
What about Robin? Remember, before the '70s or '80s, Batman and Robin were an inseparable duo. You never would've seen a '40s Batman without Robin by his side.




Penguin was originally depicted as a small, comical man, suggestive of his namesake. A small, dapper comedy star might be a better choice. Harold Lloyd? Jack Benny? Bob Hope had the nose for it. Height aside, Oliver Hardy might've been good.




I believe the Riddler was originally modeled on Fred Astaire.




I don't know... Two-Face was supposed to be a handsome, heroic DA who was horribly scarred and broken. It calls more for a leading-man type capable of darker character roles. Fred MacMurray? Who better for Two-Face than the star of Double Indemnity?

I get what you're saying. Yeah, Fred Astair would be cool as Riddler. Harold Lloyd, then for Penguin. Ooh, Dean Stockwell for Robin, or maybe Robert Blake. Bogey for Two-Face, then.

I'm not aware of any other villains of the 40s. But if we could have had some of the later villains in the 40s, I'd say Greenstreeet for Falcone, then, Maureen O'Hara for Poison Ivy and Van Johnson for Hush

Oh, but we'd have to save MacMurray for the crossover with Captain Marvel?
 
1940s Batman
Batman: Cary Grant
Catwoman: Ingrid Bergman
The Joker: Louis Jordan
Penguin: Sydney Greenstreet
The Riddler: Orson Wells
Two-Face: James Cagney

I like these + Veronica Lake for Poison Ivy :D (who Thurman might have been channeling).

Bette Davis could possibly have been interesting female Joker!

Ruby Keeler Or Olivia DeHavilland for Vicky Vale.

Prime handsome Welles could have been an interesting Bruce Wayne/Kane

I'd have Peter Lorre or Edward G. Robinson as Penguin; Greenstreet as a Kingpin (I know not DC) or King Tut

Manic Cagney or George Raft could have made an interesting Riddler :D

How about Dick Powell as Two-Face/Harvey Dent? Handsome leading/musical man in 30s, but proved in later films he could go dark :)
 
. Bogey for Two-Face, then.

Bogey has been brought up more than once here. I think it should be pointed out that one, he would have needed to be filmed in full body shots for fight scenes, and second, he was only 5'4". Characters that are supposed to be able to go toe-to-toe with Batman need to look like they can do so.

Now, Orson Welles as Two-Face, and Dick Powell as Riddler, that would work.
 
“Leading man capable of darker character roles” sounds like a perfect description of Cagney, though he admittedly wasn’t a classically handsome leading man.

But the fact that Harvey started out as classically handsome is built into the story -- it's why the scarring of half his face is so shocking, and why he's so devastated by it, because so much of his sense of self-worth was based on his looks and charm. So it should be someone really good-looking, a leading man type, but one brave enough as an actor to ugly himself up physically and psychologically.


I like these + Veronica Lake for Poison Ivy :D (who Thurman might have been channeling).

She was doing more of a Mae West impression, wasn't she?


Prime handsome Welles could have been an interesting Bruce Wayne/Kane

Back in 2003, Mark Millar wrote a hoax column claiming that Orson Welles had actually tried to make a Batman movie in the '40s. A lot of people (myself included) fell for it before it was admitted to be a hoax. Here are Millar's casting choices:

The real treat for me was the casting notes and confirmation letters from the actors themselves such as George Raft signing up for Two-Face (after Bogart turned it down), James Cagney as The Riddler, Basil Rathbone as The Joker and Welles' former lover Marlene Dietrich as a very exotic Catwoman with the same salubrious past [Frank] Miller gave the character forty years later in "Batman: Year One."

He also claimed that the project fell apart because Welles wanted to play Batman but the studio insisted on Gregory Peck.


I'd have Peter Lorre or Edward G. Robinson as Penguin

Robinson is a good choice.
 
Now that you mention Millar/Welles...

I suspect Nolan, Fincher, Tarantino et al would be proud to have staged such a scene :adore:

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