Reman ghost ship?

[8of5]

Possible Synthesis spoilers:



I've just started reading Synthesis; on page 32 there's a passing reference to the Enterprise-E having encountered a Reman ghost ship. I cant recall the reference at all, is this something new (set up for something?), or just something I've forgotten?

 

[Cap'n Crunch]

I don't remember the reference, but I assume it's just something the author made up. Probably just intended to be one of the missions that we never "saw"; something that happened between stories.

 

[David cgc]

They're talking about the Scimitar from Nemesis, and it's "perfect" cloaking device.

 

[8of5]

They're talking about the Scimitar from Nemesis, and it's "perfect" cloaking device.

Oooooh, yeah, I clearly read that too fast (and then again when I looked it up to post :S), as they're talking about cloaked things... kinda odd way to reference the Scimitar though, when you could just, you know, mention the "Scimitar"...

 

[Stevil2001]

Especially as it wasn't actually Reman!

 

[Christopher]

No, the Scimitar was a Reman ship, differing in design from Romulan ships and using Reman language in its computer interfaces. I would imagine Shinzon had help in its construction from his Romulan military backers, but it was manned by Remans, commanded by a Reman-national (if biologically human) praetor, and flown under Reman colors.

 

[flandry84]

Were the Romulans so arrogant as to allow the downtrodden,"cannon fodder"Remans such a devastatingly powerful ship?
Actually,as it's the Romulans they probably were that arrogant.

 

[Cybersnark]

IIRC the Scimitar was built in secret. Once the Romulans joined the war effort and started letting the Remans use Romulan money to build ships and equipment, they probably just didn't look too closely.

("Why are we being billed 4,000 bars of latinum for a crate of stem-bolts?")

 

[Christopher]

Were the Romulans so arrogant as to allow the downtrodden,"cannon fodder"Remans such a devastatingly powerful ship?

The Romulans are not a single entity. They have factions jockeying against one another. Nemesis established that the Romulan military, unhappy with the Senate's conciliatory policies toward the Federation and respecting Shinzon for his extraordinary record of success in the Dominion War, chose to support Shinzon's coup against the Senate because he promised them that he would lead the empire on a new campaign of conquest and expansion -- something that would increase the power and prestige of the military. The Romulan military leaders presumably saw it as using Shinzon and the Remans as a tool for overthrowing the Senate. It was probably their arrogance that kept them from realizing that Shinzon was actually using them and would discard them in favor of his own agendas once he succeeded in his conquest.

It's a classic case of different people playing out the same situation according to different scripts. Shinzon knew, and we know, that his coup was ultimately about Reman nationalism. So from that perspective it seems strange that the Romulans would back it. But the Romulan military was blinded by its own script, its own priorities. As far as Tal'Aura, Braeg, and the others were concerned, the story being played out was the classic story of Romulan vs. Romulan, the politicians vs. the military. They expected the coup to play out according to the conventional scripts of Romulan history. That blinded them to the nationalist ambitions of the Remans.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

IIRC the Scimitar was built in secret. Once the Romulans joined the war effort and started letting the Remans use Romulan money to build ships and equipment, they probably just didn't look too closely.

("Why are we being billed 4,000 bars of latinum for a crate of stem-bolts?")

Plus

Spoiler: Tales of the Dominion War Spiolers

Shinzon had that Thaleron generator to blackmail the Romulans with to get the stuff he needed to build the Scimitar.

 

[James Swallow]

Possible Synthesis spoilers:
I've just started reading Synthesis; on page 32 there's a passing reference to the Enterprise-E having encountered a Reman ghost ship. I cant recall the reference at all, is this something new (set up for something?), or just something I've forgotten?

You can always just ask the author, y'know. I'm around...

Anyhow, as has been said, Vale's referring to the Scimitar in this scene.