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Wingsley

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There's a petition to cancel a TV show that nobody has even seen yet?

There are people on this forum who are already describing themselves as "haters" of the new show, and/or its makers?

Chill out, already.

All we have are some scant details. It's pretty safe to assume the new show will not be set in the "prime universe", or the "JJverse", for that matter.

Sounds like they're starting over with a clean sheet of paper.

What's wrong with that? Absolutely nothing, that's what.

Does this mean the new TV series will be "good"? Nobody here has any idea. As of this moment, based on what little we know, it could be a "good" show or it might be a "stinker".

None of us really has any idea and we likely won't until January of 2017. Sounds to me like the show's footage hasn't even been shot yet. How can you be opposed to something when you don't even know what it is?

Folks on here that keep saying that it better be part "JJverse" or else they will dismiss it seem disingenuous. If you think it's okay to reinvent the STAR TREK franchise in Abrams' image as was done with the recent movies, then it must be okay to reinvent the wheel again. The "JJverse" is no more or less disposable than the "prime universe", after all. Out with the old, in with the new... if that worked in 2009, it can work again in 2017.

The real question to be asked (which was glossed over with the recent movies) should be this: what do these new characters stand for? This was a serious question that was asked in TNG's early years, which fans tried to ignore. In "The Best of Trek" paperback book series of fan-written essays, Tom Lalli wrote an article called "Same Sexism, Different Generation" about how sexism was still a serious criticism during TNG's early years. And in 1990, a fan letter appeared in the "Star Trek: The Official Fan Club" magazine from one individual who described Commander Shelby ("The Best of Both Worlds") as "the kind of character Trek fans love to hate". Isn't that a little ironic, considering that Shelby was a stand-out character portrayed by an actress of TV, stage and screen, who left her mark on one of TNG's most outstanding episodes?

Melinda Snodgrass, a high-profile writer on TNG ("The Measure of A Man", "Up The Long Ladder", "The Ensigns of Command") left the show and wrote an acid editorial in "Omni" magazine titled "Boldly Going Nowhere", dismissing TNG. While I count myself as a fan of Snodgrass' TNG work, it's worth noting that the column she wrote didn't stop TNG from staying on the air about four more years after she departed, and then there were subsequent TNG movies as well.

All this negative and prejudging hyperbole on a show that may not even be shot yet seems premature at best; maybe patently absurd would be a better description. If anyone here has their mind made up this far in advance, then there's always reruns of FRIENDS on Hulu...

But doesn't GIRLS sound better?

If the new-new TREK is set in an entirely different universe, maybe it could open up new possibilities and new stories. I just hope the characters represent a positive image of humanity's future and they live by the same (or similar) rules as we saw Shatner's Kirk do. That's a more genuine source of concern.
 
I think we go farther and erase all mentions of Star Trek from history so it can be kept pure in our memories. We destroy every copy of every episode, burn every studio, stage, convention center and internet forum equipment associated with Trek and finally we all part ways and live in isolation for the rest of our lives.

If that fails we have to nuke the planet from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
 
There's a petition to cancel a TV show that nobody has even seen yet?

Er, have you actually read the petition?

We complain about shows that haven't been made yet, and we don't bother to read anything before condemning it. We Trekkies just LOVE to jump the gun.

Also,

the petition said:
Also, we demand quality. Star Trek has a long history of impeccable drama and story-telling. We will accept nothing less than stories about things like: the captain’s dog pissing on a tree, a crew member’s brain being removed to manage an entire planet while his body walks around by remote control, the annoying alien cook accidentally jamming up the warp engines with cheese, intergalactic hopscotch, falling into the bushes and being sentenced to death by half-naked people, going faster than Warp 10 and turning into lizards, etc. The bar has been set very high, and we are not going to let you fuck it up.

No we won't!
 
Star Trek: Phase II

If I understand correctly, it was thought that a television show would not generate sufficient advertising revenue.

But what if you could turn Trek into a blockbuster movie, like Star Wars?
 
Star Trek: Phase II

If I understand correctly, it was thought that a television show would not generate sufficient advertising revenue.

But what if you could turn Trek into a blockbuster movie, like Star Wars?

Riots. Rampaging in the streets. Trust me, it would not be pretty ;)

I think we might see the dawn of the Star Trek Wars.
 
Star Trek: Phase II

If I understand correctly, it was thought that a television show would not generate sufficient advertising revenue.

But what if you could turn Trek into a blockbuster movie, like Star Wars?

Star Trek: Phase II was supposed to be the flagship series of a new Paramount network, the problem is, aside from a movie of the week, Star Trek was going to be the only show that first season on the network. As the launch date got closer, affiliates started getting nervous about the lack of other substantive programming, and started to pull out.

About this time, Michael Eisner who was president of Paramount Studios wanted to use the Star Trek property to combat Fox's success with Star Wars..

It wasn't that the studio didn't think that Star Trek couldn't secure the audience... it's that they just wanted the property for something else. Feature Films...
 
I think we might see the dawn of the Star Trek Wars.

...not to be confused with the Star Wars Trek, the vast migration of Star Wars fans, who, having become disillusioned at the de-canonization of their Expanded Universe and the release of a new trilogy of movies they don't like, roam the Earth on a pilgrimage in search of bootlegged copies of the "Star Wars Holiday Special."

Kor
 
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