Rejoined: the amazing spit bridge

[SPCTRE]

Apologies if a thread already exists for this topic....
When I first saw Rejoined back in the day, the kiss was a punch in the gut. One reason it was so affecting was the spit bridge between the lips of Jadzia and Lenara.
I recently rewatched the episode, and--no spit bridge. Whaaa--? Had I misremembered? And then this weekend I re-rewatched it on Netflix at an acquaintance's house. I HAD misremembered--there were TWO spit bridges. So, did censors blur out the spit? They blur cleavage and ass cracks, so I guess it's possible. Or do I just have a crap TV?

 

[Australis]

Here y'go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_Bridge

 

[Amaris]

Apologies if a thread already exists for this topic....
When I first saw Rejoined back in the day, the kiss was a punch in the gut. One reason it was so affecting was the spit bridge between the lips of Jadzia and Lenara.
I recently rewatched the episode, and--no spit bridge. Whaaa--? Had I misremembered? And then this weekend I re-rewatched it on Netflix at an acquaintance's house. I HAD misremembered--there were TWO spit bridges. So, did censors blur out the spit? They blur cleavage and ass cracks, so I guess it's possible. Or do I just have a crap TV?

I was heartbroken, devastated when I found out.

 

[cooleddie74]

I've never trusted the spit bridge and I never will. I've never been able to forgive it for the death of my appetite.

(*Cliff Eidelman music*)

 

[Spot261]

Are there not special website for this stuff?

 

[Tosk]

 

[cooleddie74]

The worst part was when Indiana Jones cut it in half to save the day.

 

[mlbach]

Most disappointing. I asked a question about one of my favorite episodes, by one of my favorite writers, wanting to explore a possible case of censorship.
The Jadzia/Lenara kiss was probably the first lesbian kiss on television. As such, it is historically important--as important as the Uhura/Kirk kiss in TOS. And, unlike the cringe inducing lip lock on PS, it was a real kiss. Even more incredible, the taboo surrounding the kiss was not the fact that the two characters were the same gender--that doesn't factor into the taboo at all. It isn't even mentioned.
Is there really no one on the board who is capable of having a mature discussion about this topic?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Jadzia spat first.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Most disappointing. I asked a question about one of my favorite episodes, by one of my favorite writers, wanting to explore a possible case of censorship.
The Jadzia/Lenara kiss was probably the first lesbian kiss on television. As such, it is historically important--as important as the Uhura/Kirk kiss in TOS. And, unlike the cringe inducing lip lock on PS, it was a real kiss. Even more incredible, the taboo surrounding the kiss was not the fact that the two characters were the same gender--that doesn't factor into the taboo at all. It isn't even mentioned.
Is there really no one on the board who is capable of having a mature discussion about this topic?

There would be plenty of people willing to discuss the sort-of lesbian kiss with space alien copout and its implications for the time as a serious topic. Unfortunately what you did was focus on the weirdly specific feature of the "spit bridge" between their lips and some kind of homophobic conspiracy to censor it as if anyone opposed to LGBTQ depictions would care about only deleting that bit of spittle but leave in the actual kiss itself.

It was bizarre and not a "mature" angle on the discussion in the slightest, and that's what earned you the incredulous reactions from people you got. When everyone is reacting to you the same way, maybe instead of assuming the problem lies with everyone else, one should reevaluate their approach to the issue? That's assuming you're the least bit serious about this and not yanking our chains, which I'm still not convinced of, since I can't believe anyone can seriously be this earnest about such a stupid topic.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Is there really no one on the board who is capable of having a mature discussion about this topic?

I also don't take pains to find the snot hanging out of actors' noses, nor do I find discussions thereon to be compelling. Am I doubly immature?

 

[Triskelion]

 

[BillJ]

*walks in, quickly walks back out*

The kiss was a cop out (as someone noted above). Two girls remembering their long ago heterosexual romance.

 

[mlbach]

I would not have focused on the spittle, had I not personally experienced the seeing, 20 years ago, said spittle, then not seeing, several months ago, and then seeing again, a few days ago.
And, yes, I do believe that someone who might not want to delete a lesbian kiss in its entirety would delete the spittle, otherwise why would Donna Deitch have had that weird, "please, no saliva," discussion with producers?

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[mlbach]

The kiss was less of a cop-out than the one in Plato's Stepchildren (the aliens made us do it!) That at doesn't take away the historical significance of either one.

 

[MadeIndescribable]

I don't see how the kiss in Rejoined is historically significant. The first lesbian kiss on US TV was back in the 80s, and in the UK in the 70s. Plus the UK had a mixed race kiss before TOS as well, and neither relied on alien metphors.

 

[BillJ]

I don't see how the kiss in Rejoined is historically significant. The first lesbian kiss on US TV was back in the 80s, and in the UK in the 70s. Plus the UK had a mixed race kiss before TOS as well, and neither relied on alien metphors.

Star Trek has been riding an unearned "historically diverse" wave for the last fifty years. Some folks will never be able to tell the Roddenberry propaganda from the truth.

 

[Triskelion]

^ Yep.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't a lesbian kiss be between two lesbians?

 

[MadeIndescribable]

Trek has only ever depicted same sex kisses as something either taboo or evil, and always alien. Even in Beyond Sulu and his husband only ever put their arms around each other.