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reginald barclay, overlooked engineer

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As an Engineer, I am big fans of Geordi La Forge, Chief Miles O'Brien and my fellow-Vulcan, Taurik. However, my favorite is Reginald Barclay.
With all of his idiosyncrasies, he is a memorable character. And, he briefly knew great insights, when the Cytherians took charge of his body.
He appeared in several movies and subsequent series, as well as in several books, but only as a transitory figure. I think he should have been given more of a chance to shine.
What do you think?
 
I enjoyed the character also. Exploring his development from his extreme shyness would have been a very engaging story.
 
I had no problems with Barclay in Hollow Pursuits. But for me, he quickly became one of the most overused characters, even making several appearances on Voyager. I got sick of him.
 
I never watch Voyager, so I never got sick of him showing up, per say, but I do agree with what I thought the sentiment of this thread was, that his skill as an engineer went a long time overlooked... among the crew

It's clear he has enough skill & knowledge to be amongst "Starfleet's Finest". He actually had some unique insights in a few situations, & as time went on, they began treating him as someone who's insight was worth finding out, despite his personality drawbacks

It's an interesting story arc, hinting on the real phenomena of social skills being an important factor of success in any field. Had he not endeavored to improve his esteem issues, they might never have known what a solid crewman he'd be to the department & the ship
 
I think the rest of the A-Team (including Mr. T) should have made guest appearances on TNG.

"In 2352, a crack redshirt unit was sent to a penal colony by a starfleet court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security facility to the Martian underground. Today, still wanted by the Federation, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team."
 
I adore Barclay. He was huge breath of fresh air.
Flawed. Awkward. Insecure.
Just like most of the rest of us mortals.
 
I'm afraid I'm going to be the Party Pooper, here. Mine is a dissenting vote against Reginald Barclay.

Maybe he has the booksmarts to be in STARFLEET, but that's all he's got. His social awkwardness, first of all, was uncomfortable to watch. It wasn't entertaining, watching other people laughing at somebody else. Especially in the 24th Century, where Man has evolved sensibilities that would find doing so ... distasteful.

Secondly, how can someone socially awkward be packed-in with hundreds of other people, like a sardine and expect them to function like that for years and years? He seemed substandard to me, when the rest of the crew is the best the Federation has on offer - the best fit, mentally, physically, people who were up to the challenge of the ENTERPRISE mission.

Again, it begs the question of what Barclay's even doing onboard the "flagship" of the Federation. I never bought it, actually. It seemed like a conceit, of some kind, by the writers. Another "peggy sue" of some kind. Only to find out through boards like these that Barclay was meant to represent TREK fans (!!!) - say what?! No. No, no no ... that's a little like STAR TREK biting the hand that feeds it, isn't it?

When he showed up in FIRST CONTACT, the first time I saw it, my jaw dropped, like ... "holy shit! You meant to tell me this imbecile's got a big part in this GEM?! Well SCREW that!!!" Thankfully, he wasn't on hardly five minutes, but I always wince at it. Barclay's an embarassment and I really wish they wouldn't have made such a nod to the fanbase who apparently finds him endearing. But they did, so ... every movie's got to have one major flaw, I guess. And for me, that's FC's, right there. Get rid of him ...
 
I've said it before, so it's worth repeating here. I generally like Dwight Schultz' body of work as an actor. But I would have much rather preferred him returning as different characters, rather than always as Barclay. He could have been as versatile as Jeffrey Combs proved to be.
 
I like Barclay. I thought his sense of innocence was very refreshing. Plus he really is a very good engineer. He's just shy. Nothing wrong with that!
 
I liked Barclay but I don't totally "get" "how" he could exist. I mean, don't they have Ativan in the future?
 
"In 2352, a crack redshirt unit was sent to a penal colony by a starfleet court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security facility to the Martian underground. Today, still wanted by the Federation, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team."
Think you need to Star Trek up the name of the group a bit...the Aw-A-Team?

Another "peggy sue" of some kind.
You mean "Mary Sue"?
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Maybe he has the booksmarts to be in STARFLEET, but that's all he's got. His social awkwardness, first of all, was uncomfortable to watch. It wasn't entertaining, watching other people laughing at somebody else. Especially in the 24th Century, where Man has evolved sensibilities that would find doing so ... distasteful.

Secondly, how can someone socially awkward be packed-in with hundreds of other people, like a sardine and expect them to function like that for years and years? He seemed substandard to me, when the rest of the crew is the best the Federation has on offer - the best fit, mentally, physically, people who were up to the challenge of the ENTERPRISE mission.

I understand what you mean about laughing at his expense. A central theme of Star Trek - understand others who are different - would contradict that.

On the other hand, it did set up the moment when Picard tells Geordi to take Barclay seriously, get to know him, and be more of a leader to him. That scene shows more thoughtful and considerate form of leadership Picard practiced and tried to instill in his crew.

As for the rest, we can only speculate. Maybe he always had a deep-seated self-doubt, despite his engineering skills. Being among the best and brightest on the Enterprise exacerbated his self-doubt. We were not shown anything to that effect, so I admit I am filling in his backstory in an attempt to rectify the contradictions.
 
I think Barclay is awesome and his social problems make him one of the most interesting members of the enterprise crew. Hollow Pursuits is one of, if not THE best holodeck episode. Considering he saves the enterprise multiple times, he's definitely one the best of the best in starfleet.
 
As many have pointed out before, Barclay's social awkwardness and timidness was a nice change of pace from the usual Trek norm. His fear of the transporter would be a healthy one today, and not unfounded since folks get fried, aged, infected, cloned, thrown into a parallel universe, etc. every other year, and that's already after trying to stomach the idea that you're destroyed and reconstituted routinely. That he didn't get along with the cast made him endearing -- the rest of them were near perfect and rarely frustrated with each other, but we've all had superiors frustrated with us at work.

Also, that our heroes didn't quite know what to do with him aside from the fact they were all on the same side was really one of the few points of conflict, and thus story development, from within the crew itself.

And he needed therapy! He needed to work through his issues, he needed to find his self-worth and confidence, a far cry from Data who had no insecurities, the self-assured and almost cocky Riker, the experienced Picard, the powerful Worf. Finally, something for Troi to do besides state the obvious or be psychic. I so dislike the stigma in the US about needing therapy. It's medicine for a reason, after all.

We know the future isn't perfect, but the utopia of TNG gave it lip service. Here we have someone who has personal flaws, and those flaws almost always play into the story; quite different than our heroes, whose struggles are almost always external, and rarely from a struggle of responsibility or just being -- the Pegasus being a rare example, but even then that episode came many years after Barclay's debut. I'd like to think that later Trek writers learned a thing or two from Barclay. TNG gave us plenty of perfect heroes, and we got someone who was imperfect for a change, and I liked him for that.

According to Schultz himself, Roddenberry conceived Barclay as someone with truly human faults, to make him relatable, a normal human being. An average joe with a laundry list of personal problems but with a good heart nonetheless. We all try to do the right thing at work, but it's unrealistic to simply fly by with the best of our ability without screwing up here and there due to personal foible, and I think Barclay does a good job of showing that in the super-advanced 24th century.

Secondly, how can someone socially awkward be packed-in with hundreds of other people, like a sardine and expect them to function like that for years and years? He seemed substandard to me, when the rest of the crew is the best the Federation has on offer - the best fit, mentally, physically, people who were up to the challenge of the ENTERPRISE mission.

The thing is, there are so many ways to measure those attributes, and even then, how does one accurately do so, anyway? What about skills that are useful but don't fall under mental/physical fitness? How does Picard evaluate his staff? One important thing to note is that sometimes it's the right person for the right job, even if they don't hit every single ideal, because nobody's perfect but they still want - and can - contribute. And standardized testing never hits a tester's full potential, too. Indeed, Barclay episodes tend to have him playing a key role in unfolding whatever mystery of the week the crew are facing, which is bound to get some positive notices on his record, thus proving himself to his superiors.

Something to note: if only the most mentally fit were called on to serve on the Enterprise, two things would most definitely happen:
- more than a couple crew would be bound to crack under the pressure of trying to maintain that ideal. It happens in the real world US military, which seems a hell of a lot stricter than Starfleet, and that's without the deep space missions and the occasional cosmic threat
- The counselor's role narratively speaking would be drastically reduced from the expectation of having so many "hardened professionals" on board, but in reality, such a move would be horrible for crew morale and mental health

So it's not just the best and the brightest that serve on the Enterprise, but also a mix of people who are promising or at least dedicated, who have the heart to do their best. Wesley failed his first Starfleet exam, after all. Sonia Gomez had trouble starting. Taitt in Descent was full of inexperience and lack of confidence. The main characters from Lower Decks were worried about their future. People have to start somewhere. Getting the details through a fuller picture outside of test scores is precisely why jobs and advanced degree programs require cover letters and letters of personal intent beyond a mere resume or transcript.
 
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I became endeared to the Barclay character early on, and knowing he was also "The Range Rider," among other personae, made it all the more enjoyable...funny though, as a victim of teasing insults and bullying throughout my youth, I never noticed the inappropriate behavior towards Reg by some of the Officers and crew...enough to merit a "shame shame shame"...

...having said that, has there EVER been a more deliciously horrified look on an actors face than Picard's, when he calls Reg, "Lt. Broccoli?"...

...I think the character was vindicated in the end, for the most part, but it would have been instructive (and very very cool) to have been in on the process that brought the actor and the character to TNG...
 
As many have pointed out before, Barclay's social awkwardness and timidness was a nice change of pace from the usual Trek norm ...
You make a lot of interesting points in your post. But it does seem to me that once Gene Roddenberry passed the torch on the TNG to Rick Berman, the writers breathed a collective sigh of relief. "Why must everyone get along? Only a world of fiction could ever hope to accomplish that! Why are we making more work for ourselves, then? HA!!! We're not having that ... Sorry, Mr. Roddenberry." Next thing you know, Barclay's on the case and we're meant to find him relatable. I find the character being a STARFLEET Officer to be objectionable on both counts - and I always will.
 
I'm afraid I'm going to be the Party Pooper, here. Mine is a dissenting vote against Reginald Barclay.

Maybe he has the booksmarts to be in STARFLEET, but that's all he's got. His social awkwardness, first of all, was uncomfortable to watch. It wasn't entertaining, watching other people laughing at somebody else. Especially in the 24th Century, where Man has evolved sensibilities that would find doing so ... distasteful.

Secondly, how can someone socially awkward be packed-in with hundreds of other people, like a sardine and expect them to function like that for years and years? He seemed substandard to me, when the rest of the crew is the best the Federation has on offer - the best fit, mentally, physically, people who were up to the challenge of the ENTERPRISE mission.

Again, it begs the question of what Barclay's even doing onboard the "flagship" of the Federation. I never bought it, actually. It seemed like a conceit, of some kind, by the writers. Another "peggy sue" of some kind. Only to find out through boards like these that Barclay was meant to represent TREK fans (!!!) - say what?! No. No, no no ... that's a little like STAR TREK biting the hand that feeds it, isn't it?

When he showed up in FIRST CONTACT, the first time I saw it, my jaw dropped, like ... "holy shit! You meant to tell me this imbecile's got a big part in this GEM?! Well SCREW that!!!" Thankfully, he wasn't on hardly five minutes, but I always wince at it. Barclay's an embarassment and I really wish they wouldn't have made such a nod to the fanbase who apparently finds him endearing. But they did, so ... every movie's got to have one major flaw, I guess. And for me, that's FC's, right there. Get rid of him ...

There are plenty of socially awkward/shy people today, who go to work, do there job to the best of their ability etc.. At the end of the day they go home and do whatever they enjoy in there spare time. If for example Baraclay was one of the top engineers in his field then why not assign him to the Enterprise?

But perhaps another way to look it is, it's not that Barclay had a problem, it's that the others had a problem expecting everyone not to be socially awkward/shy etc... How many of us know someone who is socially awkward/shy or ourselves fall into that category?
 
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