• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

References to other Trek MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

Saw the movie for the 2nd time last night - Carol Marcus definitely says "He's developed some sort of transwarp drive".

Also, the lock Kirk uses to open the door to the warp core reminded me a lot of the maglock used by Picard to release the deflector dish in First Contact.

Regarding the USS Vengeance model...I pick up on this last night...when Kirk asks Khan "Tell me everything you know about that ship" Khan responds "Dreadnaught class ...Twice the size three times the speed" I took that to mean initially that he was comparing it to the Enterprise..However, I think he was saying Dreadnaught class but twice the size, three times the speed of a regular Dreadnaught class ship. If this was so, it wouldn't be odd to have a model of a regular Dreadnaught class on his desk.

Just my thought.

My first time back here since September 2010...missed you all!!

EDIT: Not that it has much bearing on the screen version, but in the novelization, they reference Praxis. Therefore, I'm guessing the destroyed moon around Kronos, is supposed to be the Praxis of Undiscovered Country fame.
 
Other references:

the image of the already exploded Praxis
Carol Marcus' line about how nice it is to have a family

What? How did Parxis explode already?

The same way that in the first movie Delta-Vega moved from the edge of the Galaxy to within viewing distance with the naked eye of Vulcan.

Meh. I just assumed - as somebody else here speculated - that Nero's devastating exchange with Klingon forces, the destruction of Vulcan and the attack on Earth instilled a lot of fear and paranoia in the High Council and forced the Empire to strip mine Praxis a whole lot faster than they did in the Prime timeline, leading to the moon's shattering over 30 years earlier than in the original history.
 
Can others confirm that "Dr. Boyce" is on the biobed monitor when Kirk wakes up after the Kahn-blood-serum regeneration?
I totally forgot to look for when I saw it on Friday. I'll probably go again next weekend, but I'm interested to see if others caught it.
 
I don.t get the Dr. Boyce reference, but I do remember seeing it.

I Believe it was Scotty who said Starfleet confiscated his Transwarp Equation (and Khan possibly stole and used the technology to transport himself to Qonos).
 
Can others confirm that "Dr. Boyce" is on the biobed monitor when Kirk wakes up after the Kahn-blood-serum regeneration?
I totally forgot to look for when I saw it on Friday. I'll probably go again next weekend, but I'm interested to see if others caught it.
Here is your answer.
Philip Boyce, MD, was a Starfleet medical officer serving in the 23rd century. In 2259, he was assigned to the Starfleet Command complex on Earth.
In 2259, after the battle between the USS Vengeance and the USS Enterprise while Captain James T. Kirk recovered from his blood transfusion, Dr. Boyce was listed as Kirk's Doctor on a medical monitor. (Star Trek Into Darkness)
 
I loved that they managed to answer the four-year fan debate about Enterprise's place in both timelines with something so minor that fitted perfectly into the scene.

I must have missed that one. What was said?

It's not what was said - models of the Phoenix (Star Trek: First Contact), the NX-Alpha (ENT: "First Flight") and Enterprise NX-01 on a desk in Admiral Marcus' office.
Along with the Ringship Enterprise, USS Kelvin and the Vengeance.
 
And the early 22nd century Ring Ship, too. That ties this film to both ST:TMP as well as the episode "First Flight(ENT)," further reinforcing the canonical status of the Earth-built ring ships even if we've never seen one in flight or action in any film or episode.
 
Hi All,

SPOILERS BELOW: -

...

...


Apart from all the references to the earlier Trek movie featuring Khan, I also spotted: -

The NX-01 amongst Admiral Bastard's desk models.
Section 31

Any other nods anyone noticed?

The NX-01? Nope, not 'just' the NX-01. Besides famous airplanes, rockets and shuttles, there was Cochrane's Warp ship, The Ring Ship Enterprise, The Warp 5 NX-Alpha from Fight or Flight, The NX-01 and what looks like a miniature of the USS Vengeance.
Very ballsy from Marcus' part!

If the Vengeance was some super secret, off the books, unmarked ship... why the heck would its model be on display at Starfleet HQ?

That makes no sense to me.

Images and info on all the ships seen: http://www.qmxonline.com/news/stid-history-of-starflight-models/

I wonder if Mudd's ship in the movie matched Mudd's ship as shown in the TOS remastered episode? Probably not, doesn't matter, just a thought. ;)
 
Hi All,

SPOILERS BELOW: -

...

...


Apart from all the references to the earlier Trek movie featuring Khan, I also spotted: -

The NX-01 amongst Admiral Bastard's desk models.
Section 31

Any other nods anyone noticed?

The NX-01? Nope, not 'just' the NX-01. Besides famous airplanes, rockets and shuttles, there was Cochrane's Warp ship, The Ring Ship Enterprise, The Warp 5 NX-Alpha from Fight or Flight, The NX-01 and what looks like a miniature of the USS Vengeance.
Very ballsy from Marcus' part!

If the Vengeance was some super secret, off the books, unmarked ship... why the heck would its model be on display at Starfleet HQ?

That makes no sense to me.

Images and info on all the ships seen: http://www.qmxonline.com/news/stid-history-of-starflight-models/

I wonder if Mudd's ship in the movie matched Mudd's ship as shown in the TOS remastered episode? Probably not, doesn't matter, just a thought. ;)

Ah I see... Thanks for that link! So Quantum Mechanix was behind the models.. No wonder their name was on the credits! Cool! But why isn't the photo of the USS Vengeance model on that link??? Would love to see it! Here's hoping they mass release those models and sell them to collectors at an affordable price of course ;-)

Update! Found a photo of the Vengeance model >>> http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/qmx-stid-vengeance.jpg
 
Last edited:
This has a pretty good summary of how basically every scene had previously happened, somewhere on Trek. I have to say, the scene where they all gathered together for some ship to shoot them through the window, drive-by-style, did have me thinking of the same scene in Voyager:

http://youtu.be/HeyLm-pLVm4
 
I suspect the USS Vengeance crushing Alcatraz is a reference to Abrams' TV series of the same name being cancelled after it's first season.

Haha.. Possibly.. I never did got around to watching that series.. Its cancelled?

It even has Alcatraz written on it...

8753012819_61fb8ab3ac_c.jpg
Well, it is a real place.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top