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Redlettermedia.com TMP re:View

As Plinkett, RLM's peeps are quite good. As two guys trying to improve on "Siskel & Ebert", something just seems flat. Maybe I'm used to the heavy sardonic nature of Plinkett. That's more original than people sitting in chairs doing what most of us already do.
 
I made it 12 seconds. No way I want to watch or listen to those guys for 43(!) minutes.

But I've never really liked Red Letter Media's stuff, so I guess they're just not for me.
It seems to be a very relaxed conversation between two trek fans on TMP.
I think it's pretty fair discussion for what it is.
 
As Plinkett, RLM's peeps are quite good. As two guys trying to improve on "Siskel & Ebert", something just seems flat. Maybe I'm used to the heavy sardonic nature of Plinkett. That's more original than people sitting in chairs doing what most of us already do.
I'm not sure who the guy was that Mike was talking to, but I enjoy the re:View videos more if he's talking to Jay, Rich Evans or Jack
 
I'm sure the acolytes who loved Star Trek II thru VII will still think those Nick Meyer outfits were appropriate, not that it was ever practical, but because TWOK was a huge success. I'm glad the Red Media guys acknowledged how awful those outfits were.

The lobster outfits, I call them. They look like lobsters.
 
By the way, I always got the vibe that TMP was a reflection of the 60s-early 70s counterculture. You see each character, mainly Spock though, going through the kinds of spiritual cleansing stuff that was big in the 70s at places like the Escelon Institute and such - basically, these guys all parted ways in 1969 and went off in search of "grander" things that meant "more" to them in the 70s (seemed to mean more to them than Star Trek)- the same way a lot of people tuned out of mainstream society in the 60s and 70s in such of "loftier" and deeper goals. Spock goes to cleanse himself of human emotions and become fully Vulcan, but accepts at the end that emotion is a key part of existence and is something he needs. Kirk takes a bump up to an administrative position to validate the hard work he put in during the five year Mission and perhaps to make up for all he lost during that period, but realizes that captaining a Starship is where he feels the most whole. McCoy goes "off the grid" and becomes a bearded country doctor, probably his deepest dream, but realizes his true "best destiny" is on the medical bridge, at his friend's side. Similarly, our cast realizes that their best place is at each other's side in the Star Trek universe - that no matter what else they do, this is who they are ultimately - who they're meant to be. It was not intended perhaps as such but I see TMP as being very "meta" to the film series as well as to the counterculture of the 60s and early 70s.

For me the film really feels like a metaphor for all the 60s Hippie people who jettisoned mainstream life for communes and such coming 'back to Earth' and finding that they could be happy in 'straight' society.
 
I don't think McCoy has any revelation or epiphany at all. He's dragged to the ship and plays his usual role. That's all.
 
True, but what of the rest of my point?
I think that basic theme is simply stated as finding your place: "Is that all that I am? Is there nothing more?" That's what I think you're saying, but it came across like you were applying it too broadly by including Bones.

By the way, it's Esalan not Escelon. Don Draper told me so. ;)
 
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