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Redesigned DY-100

Johnnymuffintop

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First off, I just wanna say, that if you think that Matt Jefferies designs are perfection, you're probably going to hate this.

Now that that's out of the way, to my design. Currently just a bad kitbash done in MSPaint, but hopefully I'll clean up the design in the not too distant future.

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http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/Revised-Botany-Bay-Concept-131753205

Now, to the logistics of it. I wanted to keep the basic rounded nose, raised battleship like bridge, bulky cargo bay (it's about twice as wide as it appear here) skinny corridor and clunky engine layout but make it look like no other Star Trek ship. Halo, Battlestar Galactica, and Stargate were obviously an influence but hopefully not TOO obvious. I wanted something clunky and primitive with hints of ENT designs.

She would have been used by everybody, civilian or otherwise. She was also built to be able to take glancing hits from asteroids, hence the 3 plasma cannons.
Unlike the original version, I doubt she would have been built on Earth and sent up with 4-6 rocket boosters. (Doesn't seem practical to me)
With that in mind, I figured she could be a bit bigger than the classic one since they don't have to deal with getting into Earth orbit, her approximate length is 114 meters from the top of her front antennae to her stern. Also, I was trying to design something I thought could look good against the JJPrise so she kinda HAD to be at least a little bit bigger.

What I'm thinking, keep in mind, this is an alternate history:
During the early 1970's, when Richard Nixon was approached by NASA for funding, they proposed several concepts (which IRL happened, he said that they could only afford the space shuttle). Nixon chose 3 projects, a reliable/reusable low orbit spacecraft (the shuttle), a moderately large, low/mid orbit orbital station with small shuttles for higher orbit travel, and a small moon base which could be access from the station's shuttles.
During the 80's, Regan expanded the moon base to serve as his base of operations for the Star Wars program. During which factories were built to mine material from the moon.
After the Cold War, President Bush repurposed the lunar factories (by this time there are up to 20) to build exploration vehicles. Which eventually evolved into the DY series during the late 90's.
Her initial design was an all purpose craft, no variation between military and civilian variants, aside from slightly less powerful weapons.

Personnel for these vehicles would take a spaceplane (like the Spaceship One design on steroids) which would then dock at the newly created ISS, then take another transport to the fleet yards above Lunar 1 and board their ship.
 
Ooh, I like this.....

It really does update the design, and keep the same kind of idea. Good job. :)
 
I noticed the Conestoga bits too. I like it! I'm not sure I can see it as an alternate DY-100, but I like it. I hope you'll follow through on that clean-up, because the differing line widths and random pixellation are a bit distracting. Are those fuel pods hanging underneath?
 
I noticed the Conestoga bits too. I like it! I'm not sure I can see it as an alternate DY-100, but I like it. I hope you'll follow through on that clean-up, because the differing line widths and random pixellation are a bit distracting. Are those fuel pods hanging underneath?

Both fuel and extra ballast tanks to offset the weight of the cargo.
Yeah, I know fuel tanks next to a weapon array?!? Sure it's a little dangerous, but it's safer than having it near the habitat hub. That's what I always figured was the purpose of the really skinny part of the DY series, if the fuel blew up, it would leave most of the ship safe and, obviously, without engines. Kinda like Event Horizon...

I'm also taking a good long look at Eaves' designs for further inspiration and detailing.
 
If I was going to alter the DY-100, I would combine characteristics of that with the DY-100.

Certain parts of the DY-100 (Original) have cleaner lines)
 
I like it, but think it looks too much like the old one. If I were going to redesign the DY-100, I'd make it a functional "1990s" spaceship--spinning habitat areas for centrifugal gravity and propellant tanks taking up ~99.9% of the ship's volume.
 
I like it, but think it looks too much like the old one. If I were going to redesign the DY-100, I'd make it a functional "1990s" spaceship--spinning habitat areas for centrifugal gravity and propellant tanks taking up ~99.9% of the ship's volume.
Well...

If we're really talking "1990s"... and we'll have to accept that it's "alternate 1990s" unless we want to pretend that this was a "black project" design, I suppose...

Why have simulated gravity at all? I mean, we're talking about "redesign," so we can easily ignore the visual on-screen evidence to that end as well, can't we?

The DY-100 is a "sleeper ship." Is there any plausible reason to think that you need gravity for biological-support reasons when you're dealing with people in crygenic hybernation (essentially, frozen without cell damage)?

I'll admit to not having any personal experience or knowledge with this. However, I believe that there are people doing research on this very subject (REAL research, not "freezing Walt Disney's head and Michael Jackson's brain.") So, does that research indicate that gravity is required for cryogenic preservation?

If not... why have any form of gravity... either artificial or centripetal-acceleration "simulated gravity?"

I mean, if we're talking "clean sheet" here, make it a real clean-sheet design... figure out the design requirements first!
 
It's a nice design, but it's not Star Trek. Trek designs are supposed to mostly be smooth and simple, even going back to the super-early ones. The more greeblies you put on her, the more out of place it looks.

It would fit perfectly within Babylon 5, however.
 
I like it :) :techman:

seems it also fit with B5, BSG (old and new), Starblazers (aka Space battlecruiser Yamato)
 
It's a nice design, but it's not Star Trek. Trek designs are supposed to mostly be smooth and simple, even going back to the super-early ones. The more greeblies you put on her, the more out of place it looks.

It would fit perfectly within Babylon 5, however.


Not according to TMP.
 
There's no ship nor station in TMP that is as greeblied out as this, though the office complex and epsilon station have more than the Trek aesthetic previously established.
 
There's no ship nor station in TMP that is as greeblied out as this, though the office complex and epsilon station have more than the Trek aesthetic previously established.


So, now we're eliminating great spacecraft designs for Trek because it has too many details?

Keep in mind, it's possible to maintain the TOS Starfleet asthetic as smooth and largely detail-light, and still allow for vessels from other polities and other times being more detailed, or having different propulsion types.
 
My only quibble is that the Botany Bay was of a a modular container ship design, as demonstrated in this photo and these nice construction plans. I don't see that in your design.

I agree. Now, if what the OP had drawn up was a slightly more "greebled up" version of the immediate bow portion of the DY-100, with the boom and subsequent cargo containers 'wrapped' or 'clustered' around the boom... THEN it might work.

Just IMO, of course.

Cheers,
-CM-
 
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