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Reasons why Archer is never mentioned in history

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. I don't care what the intent was, it's stupid and I don't have to accept it.
Funny, when people say this about Discovery being in continuity with TOS, you take the complete opposite view and say we should listen to our benign overlords.
 
Your loss


Just because it was never mentioned doesn't mean it never existed.

The design is very reminiscent of ships of the time period (minus the view screen), hell the nacelle have things in common with the NX-01s.
It had a window as their view screen. That’s not a Prime design.
 
Let it be noted that I often go months at a time without mentioning Charles Lindbergh or Neil Armstrong in casual conversation. :)
 
"Archer" is a forbidden word in some major galactic language. Like "belgium". ;)
Still think it was meant to be fun....
I feel like this thread is demonstrating very well the tendency of some around here to argue without bothering to fully process the things that were previously said in the conversation. Because, yeah, it was, and that was pretty clear in the OP. Probably should have prefaced the thread title with "Funny", @Nyotarules
 
...With a jury to decide count-by-count whether a reply qualifies? :vulcan:

So really, the question isn't why people didn't mention Archer as often as Kirk, it's why they didn't encounter people or things connected to Archer as often as they encountered people or things connected to Kirk. And maybe the greater historical distance could account for that where the 24th-century shows are concerned. But of course the real explanation is just that Archer hadn't been created yet.

A list of references to past skippers other than Kirk would be an extremely short one - one entry per name, really. In that sense, Archer is in fairly exclusive company in warranting multiple references. And indeed warranting those not just because of coincidental encounters with Archery things (such as field trips to Qo'noS), but very specifically because Archer makes it into the Famous Captains List (without any explanation given as to how he made it into the list).

So the original question is in error as such: Archer is actually mentioned exceptionally often for a past starship captain. But it is also an interesting one, as we still don't know what makes for famous skippers. Does saving the Federation twice suffice, or is thrice the absolute minimum requirement? Does saving just the Earth even count?

Timo Saloniemi
 
"Archer" is a forbidden word in some major galactic language. Like "belgium". ;)

I feel like this thread is demonstrating very well the tendency of some around here to argue without bothering to fully process the things that were previously said in the conversation. Because, yeah, it was, and that was pretty clear in the OP. Probably should have prefaced the thread title with "Funny", @Nyotarules

And with almost poetic irony the post following yours demonstrates that very self same lack of humour or contextual awareness.

Sometimes you ask why the chicken crossed the road only to get a debate about the composition of the tarmac.
 
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I think the temporal police discovered he was in fact future guy and wrote him out of existence, the only record being turned into a contraband holodeck story whose location remains unknown
 
That was definitely the intent, but I don't think that Portos would reach age 100+. I guess Archer could get a new beagle, maybe even Portos' descendants, but I'm not sure if that was the intent of the writers. Then again; who knows?

IaMD has President Archer pass away the night of the 1701 launch in the Prime universe. Assuming he died in 2245 in the Kelvin universe too, and no Beagle can live that long, Admiral Archer is his son/daughter who has carried on the tradition.
 
IaMD has President Archer pass away the night of the 1701 launch in the Prime universe. Assuming he died in 2245 in the Kelvin universe too, and no Beagle can live that long, Admiral Archer is his son/daughter who has carried on the tradition.

Or the beagle is in fact a parasitic alien entity which has formed a codependent pseudo relationship with the human
 
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