Re-Watching DS9

I watched Deep Space Nine out of order, starting with season 4 and then going back to season 1 later, and I had no idea the earlier seasons had anything as good as this three parter. I remember reading that people weren't all that interested in the Bajor story, but this was damn fine television and far more serialised than your typical Star Trek of the time.

Now the series just has to keep that momentum going and not ruin everything by having a second, far inferior 'the empty station is attacked by intruders' story immediately afterwards...
 
Some thoughts...
Even with the Defiant, it was always possible to have it off on a mission as-needed (as long as that wasn't overdone), so I don't really think it made much of a difference with regards to, "we can't move a lot of people very quickly"...though with this premise it certainly would have been awkward if Defiant was somewhere else.

Colonel Day is played by Steven Weber, who at the time was probably most known from the TV series Wings and who later, I think, would play Jack Torrance in the miniseries version of The Shining, which is probably not as good as the film, but has the virtue of following the original novel more closely...and I pity anyone who had to follow up a Jack Nicholson performance.

IIRC, Jaro shows up in the Terok Nor trilogy of novels, while Krim would later become the Bajoran ambassador to the Federation for a time. I don't recall that we learn much about Jaro's fate after or Krim's background prior to these episodes.
 
Some thoughts...
Even with the Defiant, it was always possible to have it off on a mission as-needed (as long as that wasn't overdone), so I don't really think it made much of a difference with regards to, "we can't move a lot of people very quickly"...though with this premise it certainly would have been awkward if Defiant was somewhere else.

Colonel Day is played by Steven Weber, who at the time was probably most known from the TV series Wings and who later, I think, would play Jack Torrance in the miniseries version of The Shining, which is probably not as good as the film, but has the virtue of following the original novel more closely...and I pity anyone who had to follow up a Jack Nicholson performance.

IIRC, Jaro shows up in the Terok Nor trilogy of novels, while Krim would later become the Bajoran ambassador to the Federation for a time. I don't recall that we learn much about Jaro's fate after or Krim's background prior to these episodes.
So his name really is Day! When I first heard it, I thought, "No, that can't be right! I'll look it up and edit in the name later... "
 
"Let He Who Is Without Sin" is the one and only DS9 episode I haven't watched since its First Airing. I haven't seen it since 1996. It left that bad of an impression on me. So, it'll be interesting to see what I think of that episode when I get to it. If nothing else, I don't think it's an episode that should've come out the very next week after "Trials and Tribble-ations". I'm sure T&T had more eyeballs on the series than usual, and they could've chosen a better episode to keep some of the momentum going.

"Profit and Lace" is another episode I already didn't like back in 1998. And I didn't have the same sensibilities back then that I have today. I wasn't really thinking about the LGBTQIA+ Community. Sorry, but I just wasn't. But that's not the point. The point is this: If I already didn't like the episode at the time, I'll have a much worse opinion of it now. Guaranteed.

It'll also be interesting to see which one I'll think is worse when I re-watch them: "Let He Who Is Without Sin" or "Profit and Lace"?

I'll bet 50 quatloos on "Profit and Lace" being far worse. 25 quatloos on "Profit and Lace" being far, far worse. I mean, if nothing else, anything with Monte Markham in it can't be dreadful...

"Sin" has some genuinely great ideas, just too many, and each of which is glossed over and/or so poorly executed and mash-mished, and yet the same story otherwise wastes half its runtime on some b.s. soap opera nonsense that, had even the entire population of the universe was watching, wouldn't have taken any notes on how to be like star trek. They might by 400 years from now, but until we reach that form of "Shiny Happy People" and all...

And, go figure,
 
Regarding Orb experiences...

Kira did consult the Orb of Time to figure out how to get themselves back to the 24th century in season 5, "TRIALS AND TRIBBLE-ATIONS". (The scene only shows her opening and closing the Orb box while Sisko does the voiceover, but this counts as someone getting Orbed.) It's interesting to note that the only leads who get Orbed are Sisko, Kira, Jadzia (only in "EMISSARY" when she is examining it in the lab), and Quark (only in "PROPHET MOTIVE"). The fact so few people do this helps underscore how special an experience this is. But yes, every season had an Orb experience happen.

I still giggle on how the Orb of Time also whips them zillions of light years - maybe it's an Orb of Space and Time? As Kira opened the Orb as well, I hope it was bigger on the inside... :guffaw: Still, what was shown in Tribbleations is a better explanation than most of the times Trek went to time travel...
 
For aftermath of "The Siege", I'll be disappointed if there's no mention of Jaro, Krim, or Day again. I don't remember.

My take on it is: I think Jaro is disgraced and disappears from the public. Krim will land on his feet in another career, maybe as a politician. Day will go to prison for life and be remembered as the man who killed The Hero of Bajor.
 
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For aftermath of "The Siege", I'll be disappointed if there's no mention of Jaro, Krim, or Day again. I don't remember.

My take on it is: I think Jaro is disgraced and disappears from the public. Krim will land on his feet in another career, maybe as a politician. Day will go to prison for life and be remembered as the man who killed The Hero of Bajor.
In the series I don't believe the three of them are ever mentioned again. As noted, Krim at least gets some good development in the novelverse. I think Jaro may be mentioned but I'm not sure on that. I'm pretty sure Day is never referenced again, which is pretty much what he deserves.
 
I don't feel like doing mise en scène for the Prophet Scenes right now (though I will), so onto the next episode in the meantime! I want to keep the momentum going...

"Invasive Procedures"

Two episodes in a row where the station has to be evacuated! Left with only a skeleton crew. This time because of a plasma storm. I'll have to look up if that's actually really a thing. And twice in a row that Quark stays behind. To let in a Trill named Verad, his girlfriend Mareel, and two Klingons for hired muscle, T'Kar (Tim Russ) and Yeto. Tim Russ plays an excellent Klingon. Comparing how he plays T'Kar to how he'll later play Tuvok, you can tell Tim Russ has a lot of acting range.

Verad takes the DS9 crew hostage and forces Bashir to take the Dax symbiont out of Jadzia and put it into him. This episode is a thematic follow-up to "Dax". In "Dax" the question was posed: If you combine the symbiont with a different host, is it the same person? Sisko concludes no, and tells Verad he's not the Dax he knew since he's willing to let Jadzia die.

Mareel thinks Verad will still be the same person she loved but, bit-by-bit, she begins to realize that Verad Dax isn't the Verad that she knew. So, both Sisko and Mareel are losing someone.

Eventually Sisko gets through Mareel, the crew retake the station, and Sisko has a bad-ass scene. Verad Dax has been calling Sisko "Benjamin" the entire time. Then, in a two-shot that shows Sisko directly behind Jerad Dax, he says, "Don't call me Benjamin!" then stuns him, after Jerad dared Sisko and said he wouldn't. I love, love, LOVE the framing of that shot. Some of Marv Rush's best camera work. Credit to the director, Les Landau, as well.

Ultimately, the Dax symbiont is taken out of Verad and put back into Jadzia. Jadzia Dax remembers everything that happened and says those memories will always be with her. Verad, who doesn't have those memories or anything else from Dax, feels empty and alone; but Mareel says he has her. The End.

While the Circle Trilogy showed DS9 moving heavily into serialization, "Invasive Procedures" shows that a lot of DS9 is still episodic. And episodic television requires a status quo... which is the only thing that can explain how Quark isn't arrested because of enabling Verad to take over the station and endanger Jadzia. Like Kira said, he crossed a line. But we'll see no sign of it next episode.

"Invasive Procedures" reminds me a bit of "Turnabout Intruder" from TOS. Verad is like Janice Lester. Unqualified and jealous of the person who has what they want. In the end, like Janice Lester, Verad feels like he has nothing, but -- in both cases -- they still have their lovers.

I don't have anything more to say, really. Other than I like shots of DS9 in the middle of a plasma storm! Not bad overall, it picks up on a theme from last season, had a couple of good fight sequences, but nothing in the episode (except for that one shot I mentioned) really shakes the Earth, and that one MAJOR flaw with Quark ultimately getting away with his involvement. The scenes between Sisko & Verad Dax and all the scenes with Mareel are what really carry it. So, I'll give this episode a 7.
 
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The first time I watched this episode I found it an obvious let-down after the opening trilogy. It was very implausible to me that Quark faced no clear repercussions for his actions here, I found Verad uninteresting, and the action felt very stock.

Rewatching it has given me a bit more respect for it as a character piece, but I still ultimately find it pretty forgettable.
 
Last time I rewatched the series I found I had no patience for episodes that played around with an idea but didn't actually do anything substantial with it, and Invasive Procedures just infuriated me. Anything would've been a letdown after the Circle three parter, but another story about invaders taking over the empty station was absolutely not what I was looking for. Plus it's another episode about exploring Dax's character which barely even features her character! I don't know why Dax sleeps through so many Trill stories, but I do know that if you've got one chance to show who Jadzia is without Dax, you don't waste it like this.

3/10 for me. Worst episode of the whole of season 2. In fact it's in my bottom five for the whole show, down there with the Ferengi comedies and Dramatis Personae.
 
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Mark this down as the first episode I disagree with general consensus about. It was bound to happen eventually, but it's pretty amazing it took 24 episodes. Where I previously came from (DSC and PIC), that's unheard of.

I genuinely like the character stuff. It's just too bad the setup was so shaky.
 
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I don't feel like doing mise en scène for the Prophet Scenes right now (though I will), so onto the next episode in the meantime! I want to keep the momentum going...

"Invasive Procedures"

Two episodes in a row where the station has to be evacuated! Left with only a skeleton crew. This time because of a plasma storm. I'll have to look up if that's actually really a thing. And twice in a row that Quark stays behind. To let in a Trill named Verad, his girlfriend Mareel, and two Klingons for hired muscle, T'Kar (Tim Russ) and Yeto. Tim Russ plays an excellent Klingon. Comparing how he plays T'Kar to how he'll later play Tuvok, you can tell Tim Russ has a lot of acting range.

Verad takes the DS9 crew hostage and forces Bashir to take the Dax symbiont out of Jadzia and put it into him. This episode is a thematic follow-up to "Dax". In "Dax" the question was posed: If you combine the symbiont with a different host, is it the same person? Sisko concludes no, and tells Verad he's not the Dax he knew since he's willing to let Jadzia die.

Mareel thinks Verad will still be the same person she loved but, bit-by-bit, she begins to realize that Verad Dax isn't the Verad that she knew. So, both Sisko and Mareel are losing someone.

Eventually Sisko gets through Mareel, the crew retake the station, and Sisko has a bad-ass scene. Verad Dax has been calling Sisko "Benjamin" the entire time. Then, in a two-shot that shows Sisko directly behind Jerad Dax, he says, "Don't call me Benjamin!" then stuns him, after Jerad dared Sisko and said he wouldn't. I love, love, LOVE the framing of that shot. Some of Marv Rush's best camera work. Credit to the director, Les Landau, as well.

Ultimately, the Dax symbiont is taken out of Verad and put back into Jadzia. Jadzia Dax remembers everything that happened and says those memories will always be with her. Verad, who doesn't have those memories or anything else from Dax, feels empty and alone; but Mareel says he has her. The End.

While the Circle Trilogy showed DS9 moving heavily into serialization, "Invasive Procedures" shows that a lot of DS9 is still episodic. And episodic television requires a status quo... which is the only thing that can explain how Quark isn't arrested because of enabling Verad to take over the station and endanger Jadzia. Like Kira said, he crossed a line. But we'll see no sign of it next episode.

"Invasive Procedures" reminds me a bit of "Turnabout Intruder" from TOS. Verad is like Janice Lester. Unqualified and jealous of the person who has what they want. In the end, like Janice Lester, Verad feels like he has nothing, but -- in both cases -- they still have their lovers.

I don't have anything more to say, really. Other than I like shots of DS9 in the middle of a plasma storm! Not bad overall, it picks up on a theme from last season, had a couple of good fight sequences, but nothing in the episode (except for that one shot I mentioned) really shakes the Earth, and that one MAJOR flaw with Quark ultimately getting away with his involvement. The scenes between Sisko & Verad Dax and all the scenes with Mareel are what really carry it. So, I'll give this episode a 7.
I have always thought "INVASIVE PROCEDURES" set up two things for Dax, both in the short term and long term.

Short term: I don't think it's a coincidence that Jadzia became a more open character almost directly after this. (First time I really noticed this was her conversation with Pel in "RULES OF ACQUISITION", which was the third produced and aired after this one. Even her demeanor is much more relaxed than before.) She also seemed to try a LOT of other different things, like morning wrestling, as we saw in "PLAYING GOD". Jadzia said she remembered everything about Verad, and he was sad. I think the experience was a sort of wake up call to TRULY live life and expand in all things.

Long term: I think this was how the breakdown of the mental block of Joran got started. Everybody has said it can be very harmful to switch symbiotes back and forth so quickly, so I think it's entirely possible it began here. Basically exactly a year later, we get "EQUILIBRIUM". (4th episode produced and aired for season 3, just like "INVASIVE PROCEDURES".)


So while this is a standalone episode, I think it still also functions as a building block to those things.
 
Would you also say she might never have wound up with Worf were it not for this experience?
Not necessarily. Jadzia clearly had an eye on Worf from their first scene together in "THE WAY IF THE WARRIOR". He impressed her with his quick takedown of Martok's son. And along the way, they obviously grew closer.

They do seem to be opposites in many ways, as Worf poinrs out to Martok in "YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED". Opposites do attract quite often. (I've seen it happen AND it has happened to me.)
 
I put off watching the next episode, first because I didn't feel like watching a family drama about child custody, and second because of the Labor Day Weekend. And then there turned out to be an unintentional third reason. A YouTube Channel, Target Audience, just reacted to TNG's "Suddenly Human". Sometimes things just work out the way they were meant to, and that'll be fresh in my mind while I go into...

"Cardassians"

It's about time Garak showed up again!
What took so long? When Bashir is talking to Garak about Bajoran clients Garak has, or any clients for that matter, it feels like how I imagine if Bashir were in the UK post-WWII (he has a British accent, so why not?) and asking Garak, if he were German or Japanese, how anyone would do business with him. When Garak says he builds trust with his clients, Bashir says then those clients will tell him things and continues to suggest that Garak is a spy. Garak, of course, denies it and tells Bashir that he's letting his imagination run away with him. In this opening scene, Garak is reintroduced and everything about him is summed up, including the mystery surrounding him. It's a real crime he was only in one episode of Season 1.

Rugal, a teenage Cardassian boy who was a War Orphan raised by a Bajoran foster-father, was raised to hate is own kind. When he bites Garak, that was the scene I was dreading watching again. Even though I could understand from Rugal's point-of-view. After that, Dukat immediately hears about the incident and demands an investigation from Sisko: both about the War Orphans and about Rugal himself. Dukat wants the War Orphans returned. And then that's when "Cardassians" begins to parallel "Suddenly Human". In "Suddenly Human", Jono was a Human raised by Talarians who thought of himself as Talarian even though he was Human. Rugal thinks of himself as a Bajoran even though he's Cardassian. And like in "Suddenly Human", the question becomes about whether or not to return Rugal to his biological people or the people who raised him.

Dukat is another character who gets to be focused on and fleshed out in this episode after also having such limited exposure in Season 1. Prior to this, any time Dukat showed up in an episode, he was there to offer some insincere pleasantries to Sisko and little more. In "Cardassians", part of the focus is turned directly onto Dukat. He was in charge of Bajor during the Occupation, he was the commander of Terok Nor, he knew what was going on, and he sure knew about the War Orphans that were being abandoned. Garak points out to Bashir the renowned Cardassian attention to detail.

Then we get THE scene of the episode. In Ops, when Sisko is talking to Dukat via subspace, Bashir interrupts and grills Dukat. When I was watching this, I thought two things: "What the Hell?" and "That takes guts!" Sisko tells Bashir it was the highlight of his day, but also tells him in no uncertain terms, "Don't do it again." What I appreciate is that we get to delve a little bit deeper into the Cardassian chain-of-command. The civilian government decided to withdraw from Bajor, a decision Dukat didn't agree with, and Dukat tries to make it sound like the military reports to the civilian government, but Bashir says it's the other way around. Rather than continue to answer Bashir's questions, Dukat asks him how he learned so much about "Cardassian social studies" (interesting choice of words there, because my brother happens to be a Social Studies teacher), and Bashir says it was from Garak.

Then there's even more development for Garak's character. Garak, as we've seen, never tells anything straight to Bashir. I kind of like that the Cardassian who isn't straight (don't argue about it!) doesn't say anything straight either. Double-entendre! Also, Garak and Dukat don't like each other.

Rugal staying with the O'Briens. I didn't remember this episode very well. I expected Rugal to completely freak out when Keiko was serving Cardassian food. Instead, Rugal and O'Brien quietly reject it, shoving the plates aside until both their plates connect. They make eye-contact. They both hate Cardassians. The entire meal scene felt very tense.

Later on, Rugal asks O'Brien what he thinks of the Cardassians. O'Brien tries to the dodge the subject, then says you can't judge an entire race and Rugal says outright he hates them. I think it's very big of O'Brien when he says doesn't like some Cardassians, but likes others, like Rugal.

In a parallel to Season 1's "Past Prologue" when Bashir told SIsko that Garak wants him to buy a suit, this time he tells Sisko that Garak wants him to take a Runabout down to Bajor. To one-up last time, Bashir tells Sisko in the middle of the night! Then Sisko is contacted by Dukat over subspace. I kept thinking, "Please don't interrupt again, Bashir!" Thankfully, he didn't. But Dukat did say they were able to find out who Rugal's biological father is, and it turns out to be some prominent politician. Bashir tells Sisko that Garak probably knew about this which why he wanted Bashir to go to Bajor to investigate something. So, this episode is also establishing just how on top of things Garak really is.

Garak really gets to show off in this episode! When Garak and Bashir are on Bajor, they want to look up information about Rugal but the computer at the orphanage isn't working. Garak volunteers to fix it. I was just as surprised as Bashir that he knew how to do that!

As far as the computer displays... ummmm, they looked primitive even in 1993. Sorry! It looks like, not even Windows, it looks like the MS-DOS computers that I used in junior high and most of high school. We had old computers. And electronic typewriters. Getting to use the new computers and Microsoft Office during my senior year was a Big Deal. But, of course they didn't have Windows 95, like I had at home. Nope! They were still Windows 3.1. I usually try NOT to comment on the computer displays in this series, but this time it just jumped out to me a little bit too much. Anyway...

When the other children at the orphanage see Garak, they ask if he's there to take them home. He says not. They don't seem angry or frightened like Rugal. They probably also don't like and/or hate Cardassians, but I think Rugal probably has anger issues that are specific to him. That's my read of him compared to the other War Orphans, from what little we see.

Bashir figures out, thanks to Garak, that Rugal's father was a politician at odds with Gul Dukat and was the one who made the decision to have the Cardassians withdraw from Bajor to take Dukat's position of power away from him. Very much a political decision. I didn't remember this at all.

When Rugal's father, Pedar, arrives on the station, O'Brien talks to him first. He wants to prepare him for facing that Rugal hates his own kind. Pedar says that "family is everything." It's what the Cardassians believe in. I also think it's what the Mafia believes in, so these Tough Guys have deep family values as well. Pedar didn't know his son was alive, he thought he was dead, and becomes upset at himself that he didn't try harder to find his son, who ended up being raised by Bajorans. The scene between Rugal and his father is tense. Rugal wants nothing to do with him. I can see Rugal's point-of-view and his father's. You feel for them both.

Rugal's biological father and adoptive father meet in Sisko's office. Both want Rugal and Sisko suggests that they need arbitration. Both fathers agree to have Sisko be arbitrator because he's neither Bajoran nor Cardassian and he's a father as well. Then Odo informs Sisko that Dukat has arrived on the station. The plot thickens. And now it's not just Bashir who feels like they're being manipulated. Sisko feels manipulated as well. By Dukat. So now, finally, in the fifth episode of the second season, we have Dukat actively involved in the plot, instead of just someone who pops in and pops out like all his previous appearances.

When Sisko, Dukat, Rugal, his fathers, and O'Brien are in the room, during the custody hearing, it feels so tense. I feel like I'm really in a custody hearing. This feels stressful in a way that I didn't expect it to... and I'm not even a parent! Nor do I think I want to be. But I feel so bad for everyone there. Except for Dukat. It's agonizing for Rugal and his family, Sisko's in a tough spot, and Dukat? "I'm here for the children." Yeah right. Sisko gets right to it and points out that Dukat and Pedar are political adversaries. He didn't wait and wanted to establish that right off the bat.

Meanwhile Bashir and Garak are trying to find out why Dukat is really there and why Rugal's files have been purged, and conclude Dukat didn't want something to be found out. He didn't want something to be exposed. However, Dukat is counting on the news of Pedar's son will disgrace him and his political career will be over. A member of the Cardassian military woman delivered Rugal to the orphanage while knowing that he wasn't an orphan. This was in hopes that one day it would be found out and used against Pedar. The woman who brought Rugal to the Orphanage worked for Terok Nor. Bashir asks what Terok Nor is. Dukat says it was DS9. That's what the station was called before Starfleet arrived. Bashir asks, "Gul Dukat? Who was the commander of Terok Nor eight years ago?," as he walks out the door. They all know it was him.

Sisko makes the very tough decision to grant custody of Rugal to Pedar, since Rugal was the true victim of Dukat's conspiracy. Making this the polar opposite of "Suddenly Human" where Jono stayed with his adoptive family.

Pedar says that Bashir gave him the leverage he needed, Pedar can say that Dukat set him up, if Dukat tries to disgrace him publicly. Which leaves that at stalemate now because neither will talk about it in public. It's still uneasy between Pedar and Rugal but no longer super-tense. Pedar says, "I suppose it will take some time." I would've been interested to see how that would've turned out.

As an epilogue, Bashir wants to know the truth about what happened between Garak and Dukat. Then Garak says he doesn't tell the truth because he doesn't believe there is such a thing. Sums up Garak to a T. He tells Bashir everything he needs to know is right there, scattered around. It's like a mind puzzle that he wants Bashir to be engaged in.

Summing this up, I think "Cardassians" fleshed out the Cardassians in the same way "In the Hands of the Prophets" and the Circle Trilogy fleshed out the Bajorans. We get a taste of Cardassian politics. We see how Machiavellian Dukat can be. We get some family drama. We definitely get to know a LOT more about Garak. "Past Prologue" introduced Garak, but "Cardassians" defined him. And this is Bashir's best episode on Deep Space Nine up to this point.

"Cardassians" wasn't a knock-out but I liked it better than It thought I would, given all the family drama, and I can't believe how much they packed into a single episode. I give it an 8.
 
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An addendum: When Dukat says "I'm here for the children", I just had a thought. I could picture Winn saying, "I'm here for the children." Even here -- in early-Season 2!!! -- I can see how Dukat and Winn can end up joining forces by the end of the series.
 
It should be noted that Rugal's perspectives on events during and following this incident form the basis of the Una McCormack novel, "The Never-Ending Sacrifice", which is a deep dive into events on Cardassia during and following the series. It's not an easy read as one can readily imagine, but it may be one of the finest Trek novels I've ever read.
 
Sisko makes the very tough decision to grant custody of Rugal to Pedar, since Rugal was the true victim of Dukat's conspiracy. Making this the polar opposite of "Suddenly Human" where Jono stayed with his adoptive family.
This is a controversial episode for Sisko's decision. I've been on the side of returning Rugal because he was the object of a conspiracy. I re-watch the episode a few months ago and changed my mind: the Bajoran home was not safe for Rugal. The episode didn't explore this aspect deeply, but it looks like the Bajorans around them, if not the father himself, were dumping their trauma onto Rugal, and he was imbued with self-hatred. They may not have directly targeted Rugal, but it looks like they were eager to use him as a vessel for their anger.
 
Given what the Bajorans endured, I can't really find it within myself to judge them too harshly. It's easy for us to look at the situation from our removed distance and say that they shouldn't have been doing that, but given the horrors that they endured, I question whether it's at all realistic to expect that they would have been able to behave in any other way anytime soon.

I think the episode does a good job of setting up a Kobayashi Maru scenario for Ben. I just don't see that there's a good answer here. IIRC, at least in "Suddenly Human" Jono didn't have surviving parents.
 
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