Rating for US Premiere

[MvRojo]

1.6 18-49 rating / 8.19 million
Will have some adjustments because of the delayed start. Since it's only the 9PM hour, it includes part of the NCIS rerun that followed it, and doesn't include the beginning that was in the 8 PM hour.

For comparison, the special premiere of "The Good Fight" on CBS earlier this year got a 0.7 rating and 7.17 million viewers. Much cheaper show, but it did get renewed by CAA after just a couple weeks.

EDIT: The final rating was adjusted to 1.9 and 9.6 million viewers.

 

[seigezunt]

I don't get how ratings work vis a vis broadcast vs streaming vs pay. Seems like there'd be some number crunching to do.

 

[MvRojo]

I don't get how ratings work vis a vis broadcast vs streaming vs pay. Seems like there'd be some number crunching to do.

Yeah, we'll most likely never know what the streaming/pay numbers were.

 

[cultcross]

Streaming numbers are kept very quiet. They only way you know what's doing well is renewals.

 

[Blooded]

Streaming numbers are kept very quiet. They only way you know what's doing well is renewals.

Indeed, although in the case of Discovery, we may be able to get an even better hint from what CBS announce as their next total amount of subscribers compared to what they announced prior to the show.

Either way, in this day and age, 8m-9m viewers for a Trek pilot seems pretty damn good. ENT got 12m for its pilot back in a time when much more people were watching traditional tv, no?

 

[Kane_Steel]

Ratings for this season and on streaming are irrelevant it seems.

Season 2 is already underway. Netflix paid for S1. I think S2 ratings will be what decides whether STD has a future or not.

 

[MvRojo]

Indeed, although in the case of Discovery, we may be able to get an even better hint from what CBS announce as their next total amount of subscribers compared to what they announced prior to the show.

Either way, in this day and age, 8m-9m viewers for a Trek pilot seems pretty damn good. ENT got 12m for its pilot back in a time when much more people were watching traditional tv, no?

Back then more people watched live since there weren't as many options for delayed viewing. Delayed viewing also wasn't really taken into account in general. Nowadays, they release live + 3 days, and live + 7 days ratings information.

 

[Blooded]

Back then more people watched live since there weren't as many options for delayed viewing. Delayed viewing also wasn't really taken into account in general. Nowadays, they release live + 3 days, and live + 7 days ratings information.

Yeah that's what I was getting at really - that ENT's better overnight figure in 2001 doesn't really mean much in regards to comparison with DIS in 2017.

 

[Blooded]

It should also be noted that SuperHeroHype are reporting that CBS All Access had its record highest number of new subscribers yesterday, although I didn't see a source for that in their original article nor did a number get quoted.

 

[Fateor]

So it did worse then The Orville.

Streaming numbers are kept very quiet. They only way you know what's doing well is renewals.

Not really, they have begun releasing streaming numbers the last few years.

 

[The Habs Fan]

The Orville had a direct lead in from an NFL game. When it moved to Thursday, it only got a 1.1 with a little over 4 million viewers. Let's see what Star Trek adjusts to before saying The Orville beat it. Plus, The ratings for Star Trek doesn't matter when it comes to getting renewed, it's subscriptions. The Orville is on the way to getting cancelled if the ratings don't improve.

 

[MvRojo]

So it did worse then The Orville.

Not really, they have begun releasing streaming numbers the last few years.

It did do worse than Orville, but Orville had a lead-in with a 4.4 rating and 12 million viewers. Final numbers aren't out, but Discovery's lead-in was probably under a 2.5 rating.

And no one releases streaming viewership numbers. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon - none of them

 

[Kane_Steel]

It should also be noted that SuperHeroHype are reporting that CBS All Access had its record highest number of new subscribers yesterday, although I didn't see a source for that in their original article nor did a number get quoted.

Well that's a pretty low bar, given that this is really CBS All Access' first big budget series draw to the streaming network.

 

[Fateor]

Well that's a pretty low bar, given that this is really CBS All Access' first big budget series draw to the streaming network.

It's also not differentiating between people who signed up for the free trial just to check out episode 2 and don't plan to continue.

 

[Noname Given]

1.6 18-49 rating / 8.19 million
Will have some adjustments because of the delayed start. Since it's only the 9PM hour, it includes part of the NCIS rerun that followed it, and doesn't include the beginning that was in the 8 PM hour.

For comparison, the special premiere of "The Good Fight" on CBS earlier this year got a 0.7 rating and 7.17 million viewers. Much cheaper show, but it did get renewed by CAA after just a couple weeks.

It wasn't delayed on the West Coast and had a lead in from CBS "60 minutes" (IDK if those TV ratings figures were aggregated in later) - but also remember that CBS Execs probably could care less about the actual Broadcast TV ratings as ST: D is meant to drive CBSAA subscription numbers up. <--- In the end ST: D's ability to bring in new (and retain) CBSAA subscribers will probably be the deciding factor as to whether CBS renews it for another season.

From this article:
http://tvline.com/2017/09/25/star-trek-discovery-ratings-season-1-premiere-cbs/

Though exact numbers have not been made available, the new Trek also led CBS All Access — the exclusive home to the sci-fi drama’s second and all future episodes — to a record for subscriber sign-ups in a single day (eclipsing the previous mark fueled by this year’s Grammy Awards). That in turn capped the streaming service’s best week and month ever in new sign-ups.

^^^
That said, I'm sure CBS will look at retention rates (IE how many of these new subscribers STAY subscribed) to gauge the overall success/failure of ST: D.

 

[VOODOOXI]

Discovery gets just “decent” ratings in it’s debut. I wonder if a lot of people just said the hell with it as they don’t plan on paying to watch the series after it’s debut on broadcast tv?

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-sept-24-2017/

 

[Tarek71]

For the first Trek TV in 12 years that seems a little disappointing, even given changed viewer patterns since '05. I'm sure we won't ever see specific streaming numbers. Given that issues with the one episode that aired, I'm curious to see how many subscribed and how many stay through the end of the free trial.

 

[MvRojo]

Discovery gets just “decent” ratings in it’s debut. I wonder if a lot of people just said the hell with it as they don’t plan on paying to watch the series after it’s debut on broadcast tv?

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-sept-24-2017/

Probably some who will never watch the show, and some who will watch it later.

I have two friends who both said they would just wait til there were more episodes to subscribe to All Access, and so didn't bother watching the premiere last night. One doesn't have cable or an antenna and watches everything via streaming services.

 

[suarezguy]

Yeah that's what I was getting at really - that ENT's better overnight figure in 2001 doesn't really mean much in regards to comparison with DIS in 2017.

Fair point but the lower viewership does point somewhat against the perception and hype that Fuller and Kurtzman are more popular and respected than Berman & Braga were then (and that Trek was too oversaturated then and isn't now).

 

[DarthPipes]

Is it any surprise that the ratings for Discovery aren't that great? The cast, crew and network have been doing everything humanly possible to drive away as many viewers as they can. They wish to continue to be a fringe niche of a show and a franchise that few people will watch.