Rate 8x12: Death In Heaven
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Well, they not only said it wasn't rain but Cyber Pollen, they were adamant about it. So it's kind of unfair to say that it was just raining souls and the cyber technology didn't come from anywhere. It seems more likely that it was raining cyber technology and the souls got downloaded after the process was complete.
A bit advanced compared to prior Cyber technology, but it does make more sense that way.
A bit advanced compared to prior Cyber technology, but it does make more sense that way.
Cybermen using Timelord technology under the control of the Mistress. Nothing seems to small to get so large. (remember the Master use to have a compression beam, and we've seen that Timelord tech holds lots of stuff inside it. Remember the tiny TARDIS?) All the Cyber-tech has to do is get out of the tiny spaces and into the bodies.
Then again, the Borg didn't initially have these abilities either. I do like that they're going back to using whole bodies as opposed to just brains, though.
But that wasn't Cyberman tech, that was Master/TimeLord tech that rained the cyberman nanos
I hope Capaldi's wish of some Mondasian cybermen becomes a reality; then we might see a revival of Tenth Planet-styles cybermen and maybe a restating of their origin: ie that the they're from a society where the body's organs were one-by-one superseded by technology until only the brain was left, and that devoid of emotion.
I don't understand the change in the Master's characterization. This is a character, who according to the Fourth Doctor, would pull the wings off a fly before it was executed.
According to "The Deadly Assassin", an electrical scan of a Time Lord's brain pattern is made when they are near death. The Time Lord is in physical contact with the Amplified Panatropic Computations control, which does the scanning and transmits the data to the matrix.
So, how did the Master get the brain patterns of humans when the ones we saw die weren't in physical contact with the equipment needed for the scanning?
According to "The Deadly Assassin", an electrical scan of a Time Lord's brain pattern is made when they are near death. The Time Lord is in physical contact with the Amplified Panatropic Computations control, which does the scanning and transmits the data to the matrix.
So, how did the Master get the brain patterns of humans when the ones we saw die weren't in physical contact with the equipment needed for the scanning?
^ The same story has the Time Lords not knowing that there was a black hole under their citadel, or about how their computers worked. Maybe the plugging in was actually unnecessary all the time.
The physical connection thing seems redundant, anyway, given the existence of telepathic technology.
As for the Master, it seems that with the exception of Jacobi the character is now the Doctor's Joker where it used to be his Ra's Al Ghul. I'd like to see the pendulum swing a bit more the other way, but going by Moffat's treatment of Moriarty in Sherlock that appears unlikely for now.
The physical connection thing seems redundant, anyway, given the existence of telepathic technology.
As for the Master, it seems that with the exception of Jacobi the character is now the Doctor's Joker where it used to be his Ra's Al Ghul. I'd like to see the pendulum swing a bit more the other way, but going by Moffat's treatment of Moriarty in Sherlock that appears unlikely for now.
As another explanation, while there is certainly a Time Lord hard drive involved, who's to say that the brain scanning technology he used doesn't belong to someone else?
The relics of Rassilon had become seen as symbols of the President. Their purpose was lost through the ages. The feeling I get from the serial is that the Gallifreyans had become stagnant in their technology. Other civilizations had become more advanced in their technology. I think a parallel is the Japanese civilization which went through a period of stagnation from the 17th century to the 19th century. Like Gallifrey, Japan was isolated from the larger world.
I do miss the time that the classic Doctor Who spent on story telling. True, some of the stories were padded with filler; however, the best serials gave information that was needed to understand the plot. Considering how many questions which arise from the finale, I think it could have been extended to three hours.
I do miss the time that the classic Doctor Who spent on story telling. True, some of the stories were padded with filler; however, the best serials gave information that was needed to understand the plot. Considering how many questions which arise from the finale, I think it could have been extended to three hours.
Three hours? Even in the classic era, Doctor Who rarely if ever went on that long.
Well, I don't think that's necessarily the problem so much as it is Moffat's writing style. That is, he writes scenes where the characters deliver monologue on top of monologue describing what it is they are going to do before they finally go ahead and do it. Maybe if we cut out two or three monologues and just had the characters do whatever it is that's necessary to save the day, there'd be more to wrap up any dangling threads.
